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Gen. Patton
2005-06-12, 13:37
I think karma is just a twist on chaos theory and murphys law. People can easily interpret one bad event as 'karma' on someone who has been winning and screwing others over.

If karma does exist, how can we say what was an act of karma and what was an act of free will from another person? Or did karma somehow influence this person? Does it only pick certain people and certain events.

Because there are alot of people in history that have gotten away with a hell of alot, and only the people have been the ones that brought them to justice. If the people were able to act that is.

I stick with my previous statements, with enough planning and predicting you can do anything, but you will get thrown exceptions as events become more complex.

If your karma does exist, science will not be able to work out a formula to predict how it influences events, because its selective process is based off of stupidity.

Paradise Lost
2005-06-12, 21:50
Personally, I believe that Karma doesn't really exist. But, it's a damn good thing to try and live your life by.

your_daemon
2005-06-13, 02:50
quote:Originally posted by Paradise Lost:

Personally, I believe that Karma doesn't really exist. But, it's a damn good thing to try and live your life by.

That is the truth if believing in karma makes you a better person then do it.

Social Junker
2005-06-13, 08:56
quote:Originally posted by Gen. Patton:

Because there are alot of people in history that have gotten away with a hell of alot, and only the people have been the ones that brought them to justice. If the people were able to act that is.



Karma is not confined to just one lifetime. Karma can result from an act that took place 10,000 years ago or one minute ago.

As a Buddhist, I can't say that I take the idea of karma literally. But I think that following the idea of karma helps you live a better life.

Spic Power
2005-06-13, 15:02
Gen. Patton has moved up and now is my second favorite poster on all of totse.

HagbardCeline
2005-06-13, 16:45
I think part of the confusion about Karma arises from our western Judeo-Christian traditions that imply punishment/reward for various actions.

In fact, the doctrine of Karma simply says that if you do evil shit, then your mind and your surroundings are affected by those actions, and it becomes more likely that evil will befall you.

Conversely, if you do good, then you create a good environment, where good things are more likely to happen.

It's not really that mystical at all, just good common-sense.

Gulielmus
2005-06-13, 18:18
quote:Originally posted by HagbardCeline:

I think part of the confusion about Karma arises from our western Judeo-Christian traditions that imply punishment/reward for various actions.

In fact, the doctrine of Karma simply says that if you do evil shit, then your mind and your surroundings are affected by those actions, and it becomes more likely that evil will befall you.

Conversely, if you do good, then you create a good environment, where good things are more likely to happen.

It's not really that mystical at all, just good common-sense.

Right thought, right action.

aTribeCalledSean
2005-06-14, 06:32
quote:Originally posted by HagbardCeline:

I think part of the confusion about Karma arises from our western Judeo-Christian traditions that imply punishment/reward for various actions.

In fact, the doctrine of Karma simply says that if you do evil shit, then your mind and your surroundings are affected by those actions, and it becomes more likely that evil will befall you.

Conversely, if you do good, then you create a good environment, where good things are more likely to happen.

It's not really that mystical at all, just good common-sense.

Ding ding fucking ding.

Though to be fair, there is a lot of "mysticism" surrounding it, especially in the Tibetan tradition.

Karma is also taken literally at reincarnation in some schools of Buddhism. Example: Sinfully eat meat = you become a carnivorous animal.

Social Junker
2005-06-14, 07:08
quote:Originally posted by HagbardCeline:



In fact, the doctrine of Karma simply says that if you do evil shit, then your mind and your surroundings are affected by those actions, and it becomes more likely that evil will befall you.

Conversely, if you do good, then you create a good environment, where good things are more likely to happen.

It's not really that mystical at all, just good common-sense.

Yeah, exactly. Some people in the West intrepet karma to mean fate or destiny, but it's nothing like that at all.

aTribeCalledSean
2005-06-15, 06:27
I think the most common misconception of Karma in the Western world is that it is a direct reward/reaction system. Like Revenge Theology.

The most common thing I hear after someone drops something/trips/etc. is "Bad Karma", as in, "I did something bad, so something bad directly happened back to me as an equivelent reaction"."