View Full Version : Fuck Earth: the debate.
give me ONE good reason to do anything to save this planet, and i WILL become a enviromental crusader. ONE good reason, and i will change my life, forever, i swear. you only need to give me ONE good reason.
Do you accept that the existence and prosperity of the human race has value?
Do you accept that the existence of a healthy environment is necessary for the existence and prosperity of the human race?
It's really a long-term thing. Looking after the future seems logical to me.
Do you accept that the existence and prosperity of the human race has value?
Do you accept that the existence of a healthy environment is necessary for the existence and prosperity of the human race?
It's really a long-term thing. Looking after the future seems logical to me.
neither you nor i will have to bear the burden of a wrecked earth. who is this forgotten future generation, that seeks to steal from us our birth? let us chew and eat our fill of this planet, before we die. screw the future, what do i owe it?
Mantikore
2007-12-13, 14:44
The earth can do without us. We cant do anything without the earth.
The earth can do without us. We cant do anything without the earth.
i don't about *we* but *I* am not going to ever be seriously affected by the condition of earth. i don't care what happens after i die.
i don't about *we* but *I* am not going to ever be seriously affected by the condition of earth. i don't care what happens after i die.
So how do you know the condition of the earth isn't effecting you now? (Which of course it is)
So how do you know the condition of the earth isn't effecting you now? (Which of course it is)
Well if the earth's condition is affecting him now I am sure he is comfortable with the level at which he is being affected.... a level that will not change for the rest of his life.
deus-redux
2007-12-14, 00:50
neither you nor i will have to bear the burden of a wrecked earth. who is this forgotten future generation, that seeks to steal from us our birth? let us chew and eat our fill of this planet, before we die. screw the future, what do i owe it?
One day, whether you think so now or not, there's a fairly good chance you'll want kids. Then you will care, because if your actions don't affect us, they'll affect them.
-deus-
Prometheus
2007-12-14, 03:10
i don't about *we* but *I* am not going to ever be seriously affected by the condition of earth. i don't care what happens after i die.
I assure you, your favorite spring break locations will all be underwater long before you die if we don't do something about the environmental damage. That enough of an affect? How about when you get lung cancer from the air pollution? How about when you have to pay $20 a gallon for gas because we keep burning out the supply? How about when you have to ration water due to drought, or have your house swept away by a flood, because of global warming? What if you can no longer get order a tuna melt because all the tuna were overfished? How about when it gets too damn warm to grow wheat, and we have to buy it all from Canada and Russia, at much higher prices? I could go on.
I'm personally concerned because at the current rate of global temperature increase, in 20 years Michigan will have the climate of Kentucky. At least we'll have plenty of water.
People in generations past said exactly what you just said, and we're the ones being bit in the ass now. The difference is, there has been so much damage done already, we will see the consequences of our actions in our lifetime. Hell, we'll be seeing them before most of us are all that old.
I assure you, your favorite spring break locations will all be underwater long before you die if we don't do something about the environmental damage. That enough of an affect? How about when you get lung cancer from the air pollution? How about when you have to pay $20 a gallon for gas because we keep burning out the supply? How about when you have to ration water due to drought, or have your house swept away by a flood, because of global warming? What if you can no longer get order a tuna melt because all the tuna were overfished? How about when it gets too damn warm to grow wheat, and we have to buy it all from Canada and Russia, at much higher prices? I could go on.
I'm personally concerned because at the current rate of global temperature increase, in 20 years Michigan will have the climate of Kentucky. At least we'll have plenty of water.
People in generations past said exactly what you just said, and we're the ones being bit in the ass now. The difference is, there has been so much damage done already, we will see the consequences of our actions in our lifetime. Hell, we'll be seeing them before most of us are all that old.
ha ha, you tool. betcha gonna vote for whichever candidate rails the hardest about our endangered earth. they paid a lot of money to convince all of you of this danger, to squeeze votes out of you, just like the threat of a bunch of backwater scumbags with chemistry textbooks and ak-47s made a nation lose its head.
first of all, mankind is capable of anything when the motivation is there, should something ever actually become a crisis, it would be corrected with a vengeance.
second of all, of all the threats you mentioned, only air pollution and overfishing are real problems. see, i am a enviromentalist; i really am. i want clean air, clean water, and a clean earth, like everyone else, and i believe in stewardship of our resources. enviromentalists are NOT people who talk a bunch about nonsense that has no solid evidence, and fails reason at a glance anyways.as for the twenty years thing, you should be ashamed for buying such drivel. it does not even begin to make sense. seeing as there is no evidence the planet is doing anything out of the ordinary, to say that, the opposite would have to be true- and it isn't.
Dark_Magneto
2007-12-14, 23:21
neither you nor i will have to bear the burden of a wrecked earth.
It's more likely than you'd think (http://www.mindfully.org/Air/2003/Pentagon-Climate-Change1oct03.htm).
I believe that all this global warming shit has been blown out of proportion just so organizations can say they are 'solving the problem' and look like heroes.
Dark_Magneto
2007-12-15, 01:35
I don't think that's much of a consolation to the climate refugees (http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/ViewArticle.aspx?articleid=2362594).
Real.PUA
2007-12-17, 12:30
ha ha, you tool. betcha gonna vote for whichever candidate rails the hardest about our endangered earth. they paid a lot of money to convince all of you of this danger, to squeeze votes out of you, just like the threat of a bunch of backwater scumbags with chemistry textbooks and ak-47s made a nation lose its head.
first of all, mankind is capable of anything when the motivation is there, should something ever actually become a crisis, it would be corrected with a vengeance.
second of all, of all the threats you mentioned, only air pollution and overfishing are real problems. see, i am a enviromentalist; i really am. i want clean air, clean water, and a clean earth, like everyone else, and i believe in stewardship of our resources. enviromentalists are NOT people who talk a bunch about nonsense that has no solid evidence, and fails reason at a glance anyways.as for the twenty years thing, you should be ashamed for buying such drivel. it does not even begin to make sense. seeing as there is no evidence the planet is doing anything out of the ordinary, to say that, the opposite would have to be true- and it isn't.
Wow, you're a moron. Global warming is an extremely strong scientific theory (encompassing many different fields...starting with physics). It makes perfect sense, what wouldn't make sense would be if that increasing the atmospheric concentration of CO2 didn't make the earth warmer.
fretbuzz
2007-12-21, 21:07
ha ha, you tool.
first of all, mankind is capable of anything when the motivation is there, should something ever actually become a crisis, it would be corrected with a vengeance.
So what is he? A wrench? Screwdriver? Gear puller? Don't use lame verbal puns in mockery if he cleary displays more intelligence then you.
I hate when people pull the line "Human will and perseverance willl pull us through anything thrown at us." I hate your leave it to someone else to fix things attitude. With so many kids losing interest in the math and science aspect of education, the new generation might not be able to clean up after you.
People like you carry the worth of a fasion designer or interior decorator and will offer human enginuity nothing in a major crisis. You'll be the one looking toward the scientists and inventors screaming "Save me!" when shit hits the fan. Do you really want to be one of them? Be part of the solution!!