Merry Christmas

[Gold n Green]

Merry Christmas all, Jesus loves you!

This year I am hoping for and end to devil worship and satanic rituals, however it is already Christmas and I didn't ask beforehand. Well it's not over yet.

You know paganism IS devil worship? Worshipping the trees and all on the earth rather than a higher being has to be devil worship, as it says in the Bible that the devil has control over the earth, trees are joined to the earth etc etc.

Love thy neighbour and be good to each other!

[Toastman]

Amen.

[flatplat]

Happy Hogswatch!

[AngryFemme]

Love thy neighbour and be good to each other!

Done! And Happy Holidays back @ ya, Gold and Green :)

[Gold n Green]

Cheers Femme. Stay safe!

[Yeshua]

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[truckfixr]

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*Wishing for you all, a safe and happy holiday season*

[rodrat16]

Merry Christmas to all!!!
im not sure on the the pagan devil worship thing? but yeah sure i guess it makes since

[Hexadecimal]

Merry Christ-Mass, Happy Chanukah, and a Kwazy Kwanza!

[TEAMKILLER]

You do realize Christmas is a paganistic ritual right?

[Runaway_Stapler]

Merry Christmas all, Jesus loves you!

This year I am hoping for and end to devil worship and satanic rituals, however it is already Christmas and I didn't ask beforehand. Well it's not over yet.

You know paganism IS devil worship? Worshipping the trees and all on the earth rather than a higher being has to be devil worship, as it says in the Bible that the devil has control over the earth, trees are joined to the earth etc etc.

Love thy neighbour and be good to each other!

You could start ending devil worship by not celebrating the paganistic holiday of christmas! You're right, worshiping trees is basically devil worshiping, so you might want to throw out that christmas tree!

[Gold n Green]

Yeah Christmas is good, but they put it down as winter solstice, which is a bit out there.

I'm not a big Christmas person anyway, but I guess ask and you shall receive, and people spend all year asking for goodies and they get what they want.

At least it's not as bad as Halloween!

[SpAz F CAstro]

Here's to ruining the holidays.

I hope you realize how insulting the word pagan is. Let me define it for you

Pagan- heathen: a person who does not acknowledge your god

This oppinion is based on the idea that you are defining pagan as "practitioner of Witchcraft (since you mentioned the whole tree thing)"

okay, witches do NOT worship trees. They RESPECT the earth. They worship a God/Goddess. Satan, or the Devil, has absolutely no place in Wicca. The worship of Satan is the practice of profaning Christian symbolism and is thus a Christian heresy, rather than a Pagan religion. The Goddess and God of the Witches are in no way connected to Satanic practices.
And traditional witches don't celebrate Christmas. They celebrate Yule (the winter solstice) usually on the 21st 22nd or 23rd of December.

And its not your religion anyhow so why do you care? I'm sure that pagans always hear about how they're going to hell and what not. They haven't converted yet, which means they don't want to, and all the wishing in the world isn't going to do anything to the people's free will.
I'd love to be more specific, however the term "pagan" can refer to a multitiude of things.

Little bit of advice, learn the meaning of the words you use

[Gold n Green]

Sorry.

White light is better than black light. As long as they don't pray for or use their so called 'powers' to try and bring bad on anything or anyone.

Wicca seems interesting. I will have to do more research.

[SpAz F CAstro]

Well part of the wiccan rede is "an it harm none do what ye will"
meaning they don't use their abilities to harm anyone or anything.

My personal opinion on a wiccan's powers is that its all about desire(not in the perverted way).
Basically that bad things happen because we anticipate them. And good things happen because we really want them to. And the basis behind "magick" is all about how much you want something to happen.
The way I see it, its about the power of the human mind, not about superhuman (a.k.a inhuman) abilities.
Like a person who doesn't like math anticipates doing poorly in the class, and therefore does bad. Meanwhile another student likes math and does really well in the class.


Sorry if I was really bitchy. I get alot of people bashing against Wicca around Christmas time, so I'm kinda jumpy.

[BrokeProphet]

You could start ending devil worship by not celebrating the paganistic holiday of christmas! You're right, worshiping trees is basically devil worshiping, so you might want to throw out that christmas tree!

^this, but alas hypocrisy is nothing new to xtians.

[Gold n Green]

There will be a new form of Christianity one day, all we need is that Archangel to come and party with us. I reckon if he does he's gonna be a sly and do it in secret anyway so we never notice. Dodgy prick!

[Bukujutsu]

Let's not forget about the Atheists:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/Bizarro.asp?date=20071221

[---Beany---]

Basically that bad things happen because we anticipate them. And good things happen because we really want them to. And the basis behind "magick" is all about how much you want something to happen.
The way I see it, its about the power of the human mind, not about superhuman (a.k.a inhuman) abilities.

Exactly. It's a reccuring theme in religions (perhaps using different terminology) that our thoughts influence the way the universe unfolds.
In fact people interested in religion/spirituality would do well to observe similarities between religions and popular beliefs. Not to mention the similarities between those and psychological and philosophical concepts.

[CCC]

Worshipping the trees and all on the earth rather than a higher being has to be devil worship

shit.. watch out for all those BLTC pieces of devil shit then.

[MilkAndInnards]

Saying that any form of Paganism is devil worship is fucking insulting. My faith is anything but.

As an Asatru (Odinist) I seek to make myself a better person, and living to the Nine Noble Virtues as much as possible. We're honorable and loyal, family orientated folk. We don't preach our faith to others unless they want to know, we don't waste our time with disloyal scum. Our faith promotes bravery, industriousness and hospitality. We're friendly to all until they cross us. How many Christians can say that? I fail to see any Christians making a difference in their lives, or any other peoples. (except for people like the salvation army).

We rely on ourselves to make good things in our lives happen, we don't depend on our Gods like Christians depend on their God. We try our best in life and knowing that the Norns (Fates) will deal to us what they will, and we have to be strong and deal with it, not crumble and pray. We don't get on our knees and beg to our Gods like Christians do. The people of our home land are their children, they respect us and we respect then, they do not see fit to degrade us like the Christian god does. If I want something of the Gods I will stand up tall and proud and ask for it, not beg. If they see that I'm worthy I may get it, I may not. Thats fine.

And yes you stole Yule from us. Also Ostara (Easter) and many other holidays.

I also have a very strong stance on Christians. You people won't forgive Nazis for what they did, (which is fair enough), so I don't see why I should forgive you for trying to wipe out my faith and for killing millions of my kinsmen and women. If any Christian I meet in real life feels like insulting my religion I'm already mentally on the ground of beating the shit out of them. I'll perform my own Karma.


P.S. sorry if that sounds a little aggressive. I obviously don't represent my people as a whole so you can't take it as such. I'm more of a warrior amongst our people, but that is not to say we're a warrior people, although a lot of us are. But we know that there will always be people who do not wish to fight, and there will always be good family people. We understand and respect that.



Oh one question, why are you Christians so afraid of dying? You all seem to be terrified of dying, you all try to hold off for as long as possible. But why would you when you have the bliss of your heaven waiting for you? It doesn't make much sense to me. I'm going to be fighting til I can't fight any more, and when my time comes I'm going to accept it and meet my Gods and kinsmen in Valhalla.

Valhall, the hall of shining shields. Where once I'll be to celebrate my death. All hail Odin! - Falkenbach

[23]

Did you know Christianity incorporates many forms of paganism?

Why do you think it gained so much popularity in the ancient world, that was dominated by polytheistic religions?

[SpAz F CAstro]

Since Christians don't believe in my gods and pagan means "a person who doesn't acknowledge your god" then technically aren't Christians pagans?

[Hare_Geist]

Did you know Christianity incorporates many forms of paganism?

Why do you think it gained so much popularity in the ancient world, that was dominated by polytheistic religions?

I think it also helped that Christianity had friends in high up places, such as the Roman Emperor Justinian the Great, who shut down all the schools of philosophy because he considered them to be diametrically opposed to Christianity. I find this interesting, however, because there is an affinity between Christianity and Hellenistic philosophy: both were born out of feelings of inadequacy and insignificance under chaotic shifts in the political arena and the implementation of a totalitarian political regime, and as a consequence, both were concerned with achieving a state of tranquillity which required the denial of bodily pleasures and the acceptance that nothing in this life mattered. In short, both were forms of nihilism.

Another reason Christianity won dominance is that unlike the other nihilisms, it offered hope. Take, for example, Epicureanism, whose leader Epicurus was even considered divine, not unlike the Buddha. In an attempt to absolve the fear of death, Epicurus taught that "death is nothing to us; for that which is dissolved, is without sensation, and that which lacks sensation is nothing to us.” Now contrast this to Christianity, which says: ok, this life may be dirty and meaningless and filled with sin, but if you accept Jesus Christ as lord and saviour, no matter how lowly and pathetic you are, when you die you will definitely go to heaven. You can see how cold Epicureanism is compared to Christianity, and how much more appealing Christianity would be to the sufferer the Epicureanism tried to recruit on the street.

So as you can see, Christianity was far more appealing to sufferers, it took stoicism’s position on the political pedestal, and it incorporated many of the practices and beliefs of previous religions. All of this combined together gave Christianity a great aid in becoming the dominant religion.

[Gold n Green]

God created the plants and herbs for man to use as he sees fit.

Smoking pot is OK as long as it is all natural and unaltered with chemicals or anything sinister.