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crazymofojon1
2008-10-02, 00:06
3.5 grams/a slice/1/8th of dank weed could cost you 40$Then say you put a 10% tax to the government of each bag.Thats 4$ for this bag say included.So times that by 8 for 8ths a ounze You would have 32$ for each ounze produced.Then growers are put into a legit business.Then the government taxes these growers for there skill. Marijuana use goes up ,paranoia of getting caught goes down and everyone is in a win win situation.This would help out this country.

512$tax/pound
Profits of WEED/Head shops score
Everyones stoned on weed
Alcohol abuse goes down

512$ a pound is a rough figure in a mass market weed would be imagined a little cheaper.
Then all these name brand growers profit and create jobs.

MR.Kitty55
2008-10-02, 21:45
3.5 grams/a slice/1/8th of dank weed could cost you 40$Then say you put a 10% tax to the government of each bag.Thats 4$ for this bag say included.So times that by 8 for 8ths a ounze You would have 32$ for each ounze produced.Then growers are put into a legit business.Then the government taxes these growers for there skill. Marijuana use goes up ,paranoia of getting caught goes down and everyone is in a win win situation.This would help out this country.

512$tax/pound
Profits of WEED/Head shops score
Everyones stoned on weed
Alcohol abuse goes down

512$ a pound is a rough figure in a mass market weed would be imagined a little cheaper.
Then all these name brand growers profit and create jobs.

If weed was legalized people would just grow it on there own for the most part wouldn't you say?

I think legalizing weed makes sense but I don't know how much revenue you would bring in.

Fuggles
2008-10-02, 21:49
If weed was legalized people would just grow it on there own for the most part wouldn't you say?

I think legalizing weed makes sense but I don't know how much revenue you would bring in.
Tobacco is legalized and people don't grow their own. Instead, they pay ridiculously high prices to buy cigarettes. Why would it be any different for weed?

Lewcifer
2008-10-02, 21:57
We all know that legalising it would create government revenue.
We all know that legalising it would reduce the scope and reach of the "War on Drugs"; saving government (taxpayer) money and bolstering civil liberties.
We all know that legalising it would reduce overcrowding and spending on prisons.
We all know that legalising it would reduce the money given straight to foreign and domestic criminal gangs.
We all know that it carries fewer health risks than alcohol.
We all know that legalising it would limit the sale of high THC strains which have stronger links to mental health risks.

Unfortunately, we also all know that on this issue, most Western governments throw logical argument out the window and cling to some perverse outdated moralistic argument.

MR.Kitty55
2008-10-03, 00:18
Tobacco is legalized and people don't grow their own. Instead, they pay ridiculously high prices to buy cigarettes. Why would it be any different for weed?

I'm going to make an educated guess here and say because the process of making a cigarette takes alot longer than simply picking some bud off a plant, drying it off and lighting it on fire?

Besides people can smoke two packs of cigs a day, that would take alot of plants...With weed you can get all you need of a couple plants.

I don't really know, if I'm wrong about this and tobacco is easy to grow and cultivate than people are just fucking stupid. But if marijuana ever became legal where I am I'll just grow it for free.

supperrfreek
2008-10-03, 02:58
The problem comes with regulation. Imported drugs support terror, communism and organized crime, these people would still profit in the end because they currently own the means of distribution and production. They'd keep smuggling it in and make a killing. The drugs would have to be made by a domestic company and distributed by one too, for it to be even close to acceptable legalization of marijuana. I don't want the smugglers of hashish who happen to support terrorism to benefit from people's freedom to do what they wish with their own bodies. Homegrown dope = GOOD Foreign shit = support for the enemies of freedom and other unsavory characters. I guess you could say my vision for legalization looks like a pipe dream, but I'd say it looks a little better than just plain out saying "here it is, we give up it's all legal now, even though it supports our enemies". The border would have to be manned up to prevent bad pot from crossing, and a processing station would need to be made for immigrants, because I'm sick and tired of this "my grandpa went through ellis island" tripe because attaining citizenship isn't as easy as it used to be, but that's another story in itself and we'll save it for another thread I hope. Be safe, be free and be careful what you smoke.

Dream of the iris
2008-10-03, 16:19
Superfreek is kind of right in the sense that there would be very little homegrowers, not just because its significantly harder to produce good bud on your own, but also because It would probably be illegal to grow it just as it is with growing tobacco. My guess is cigarette companies would take it over with strict government regulations. Beuracratize the hell out of in order to assure that profit is not being forwarded to terrorist supporters. They might end up making it legal to grow but once again with very strict regulations and fee's so you would probably not see that many home growing. Also a 10 percent excise tax on pot seems a little too high. Maybe say 6 to 8 percent instead. That or significantly reduce the price to make it almost comparable to the price of cigarettes and then tax it heavily. Either way paying 45 to 50 dollars on an 8th of dank for legalized bud is too much. Maybe 25 to 30. Oh yeah and prepare for chemical additives as well, which would be both bad and good. Bad for the health, however, it would probably increase the high.

MR.Kitty55
2008-10-03, 19:04
The problem comes with regulation. Imported drugs support terror, communism and organized crime, these people would still profit in the end because they currently own the means of distribution and production. They'd keep smuggling it in and make a killing. The drugs would have to be made by a domestic company and distributed by one too, for it to be even close to acceptable legalization of marijuana. I don't want the smugglers of hashish who happen to support terrorism to benefit from people's freedom to do what they wish with their own bodies. Homegrown dope = GOOD Foreign shit = support for the enemies of freedom and other unsavory characters. I guess you could say my vision for legalization looks like a pipe dream, but I'd say it looks a little better than just plain out saying "here it is, we give up it's all legal now, even though it supports our enemies". The border would have to be manned up to prevent bad pot from crossing, and a processing station would need to be made for immigrants, because I'm sick and tired of this "my grandpa went through ellis island" tripe because attaining citizenship isn't as easy as it used to be, but that's another story in itself and we'll save it for another thread I hope. Be safe, be free and be careful what you smoke.

What?

If marijuana became legal no one would own the means and production of it, its a plant, anyone can grow it...How would making a substance legal benefit terrorists? If it became legal people could rely on a farmer down the street or go to a coffee house like they do in Holland? Its not like we would get flooded with pot from terrorists because they would have no reason to come here...You go to the market where the product is desired and RARE , thats how it is now. If it was legalized Weed would be so abundant that terrorists wouldn't even bother supplying here..

Also...WHO THE FUCK SMOKES WEED FROM TERRORISTS?! I don't know about you but the weed I get comes from America...Pot dealers are not drug dealers, drug dealers kill and steal from people, pot dealers are probably the most friendly and laid back people you will ever meet.

Am I missing your point? Because it makes no sense to me at all...

MR.Kitty55
2008-10-03, 19:06
Superfreek is kind of right in the sense that there would be very little homegrowers, not just because its significantly harder to produce good bud on your own, but also because It would probably be illegal to grow it just as it is with growing tobacco.


News flash, its illegal to grow now and people do it all the time :rolleyes:


And its actually legal to grow 6 full grown plants in California if you have a medical marijuana slip...So...That point isn't even true....Besides, if I grow a pot plant in my back yard or my house no one and I mean NO ONE will call the cops if its been legalized simply because I'm not buying from the government...Thats a complete false dilemma..

949884573
2008-10-03, 20:15
If weed was legalized people would just grow it on there own for the most part wouldn't you say?

I think legalizing weed makes sense but I don't know how much revenue you would bring in.

You missed the part where he said "name brand". Pot is easy to grow but there's a ton of lazy people out there that would rather just buy it. Plus, if it's legal then there's going to be more powerful breeds produced, brands will have a uniqueness or interesting qualities to them that average people can't match if they grow their own.

And when's the last time anyone genetically modified their weed? Average people can't do that, there's another reason they'd buy it. I'd sure as fuck be trying it.

949884573
2008-10-03, 20:26
We all know that legalising it would limit the sale of high THC strains which have stronger links to mental health risks.



It's not high THC levels that tend to trigger latent mental disorders, it's people's retarded attitudes about it. If you tell someone they're an idiot for their entire life they may start to believe it. People's minds are easily manipulated into believing the bullshit propaganda about weed causing mental problems.

It's extremely rare for it to trigger any mental problems and the majority of pot smokers with mental problems would tell you that too. Certain strains due to certain terpenes, may be more likely to trigger, but even then it's still going to be rare. But it would be something like terpenes, not high THC levels.

There's a lot of retards that will use weed as an excuse for bad behavior. It's amazing how many people will smoke some high quality skunk and say "Omfg skunk makes me psycho the government was right, I gotta stab people when I smoke it"

949884573
2008-10-03, 20:28
I'm going to make an educated guess here and say because the process of making a cigarette takes alot longer than simply picking some bud off a plant, drying it off and lighting it on fire?

Besides people can smoke two packs of cigs a day, that would take alot of plants...With weed you can get all you need of a couple plants.

I don't really know, if I'm wrong about this and tobacco is easy to grow and cultivate than people are just fucking stupid. But if marijuana ever became legal where I am I'll just grow it for free.
Tobacco is not particularly easy to cultivate, but it is not illegal to cultivate in the US.

nshanin
2008-10-03, 20:29
Tobacco is legalized and people don't grow their own. Instead, they pay ridiculously high prices to buy cigarettes. Why would it be any different for weed?

That's because tobacco only grows in the proper humidity and takes a complex mix of soil to cultivate. You can't do it in a closet.

OneMestizo
2008-10-03, 20:36
News flash, its illegal to grow now and people do it all the time :rolleyes:


And its actually legal to grow 6 full grown plants in California if you have a medical marijuana slip...So...That point isn't even true....Besides, if I grow a pot plant in my back yard or my house no one and I mean NO ONE will call the cops if its been legalized simply because I'm not buying from the government...Thats a complete false dilemma..

How many people grow only because they can make a product better than they can buy? Or to sell to others? And if it was legalized who's saying a private business can't make a better product for less hassle? Certainly if it was legalized, a few more people would grow, but still the vast majority of pot smokers buy their drug.

InspiredByMe
2008-10-03, 23:28
I agree that we should legalize weed, if not make it mandotory.

Think about it if everyone was stoned all the time the world would be a lot less fucked up, unless some idiot decided to use nukes while he/she was high.

nshanin
2008-10-03, 23:56
I agree that we should legalize weed, if not make it mandotory.

Think about it if everyone was stoned all the time the world would be a lot less fucked up, unless some idiot decided to use nukes while he/she was high.

You do know that you are killing the cannabis decriminalization movement, right?

TCStyle
2008-10-04, 00:02
The problem comes with regulation. Imported drugs support terror, communism and organized crime, these people would still profit in the end because they currently own the means of distribution and production. They'd keep smuggling it in and make a killing. The drugs would have to be made by a domestic company and distributed by one too, for it to be even close to acceptable legalization of marijuana. I don't want the smugglers of hashish who happen to support terrorism to benefit from people's freedom to do what they wish with their own bodies. Homegrown dope = GOOD Foreign shit = support for the enemies of freedom and other unsavory characters. I guess you could say my vision for legalization looks like a pipe dream, but I'd say it looks a little better than just plain out saying "here it is, we give up it's all legal now, even though it supports our enemies". The border would have to be manned up to prevent bad pot from crossing, and a processing station would need to be made for immigrants, because I'm sick and tired of this "my grandpa went through ellis island" tripe because attaining citizenship isn't as easy as it used to be, but that's another story in itself and we'll save it for another thread I hope. Be safe, be free and be careful what you smoke.

America obviously isn't going to buy drugs from terrorists

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Revvy
2008-10-06, 06:43
Fuck, even if you don't raise money through taxes directly, instead of people spending money and contributing it to the criminal underworld, they'll be wanting to educate themselves in horticulture (if that's even the right word) and buying stuff like UV lights and other materials for full scale grow ops and whatnot.

Lessons and materials and such would obviously be taxed and the government would still see a rise in revenues.

TrueBudSmoker
2008-10-06, 06:49
3.5 grams/a slice/1/8th of dank weed could cost you 40$Then say you put a 10% tax to the government of each bag.Thats 4$ for this bag say included.So times that by 8 for 8ths a ounze You would have 32$ for each ounze produced.Then growers are put into a legit business.Then the government taxes these growers for there skill. Marijuana use goes up ,paranoia of getting caught goes down and everyone is in a win win situation.This would help out this country.

512$tax/pound
Profits of WEED/Head shops score
Everyones stoned on weed
Alcohol abuse goes down

512$ a pound is a rough figure in a mass market weed would be imagined a little cheaper.
Then all these name brand growers profit and create jobs.

Fuck that shit I aint buying no skimpy eighth for 40 fucking dollars fuck off

ShaoLin_D
2008-10-06, 06:55
In my opinion, weed shouldn't be legalized. mainly for health reasons and also with its legalization, access to it by children would be easier, and they certainly shouldnt be adding foreign chemicals to their brains while theyre going through puberty. and im sure theres other uncertain social and health issues. however, i am all for the decriminalization of 1/2 o and/ 2-3 plants for personal use. no one should go to jail or have a crimnal record for smoking a lil weed

ShaoLin_D
2008-10-06, 06:58
America obviously isn't going to buy drugs from terrorists

/post

well who's buying all the opium that afghanistan is producing now? a little food for thought: prior to taliban rule, afghanistan was producing something like 40% of the worlds opium supply, then under taliban rule, it dropped below 1%, and now after the invasion and occupation, it is now 90%. hows that make you feel?

TrueBudSmoker
2008-10-06, 07:01
In my opinion, weed shouldn't be legalized. mainly for health reasons and also with its legalization, access to it by children would be easier, and they certainly shouldnt be adding foreign chemicals to their brains while theyre going through puberty. and im sure theres other uncertain social and health issues. however, i am all for the decriminalization of 1/2 o and/ 2-3 plants for personal use. no one should go to jail or have a crimnal record for smoking a lil weed

Please retract your statement before more people see the idiocy going on inside your head.

Don't just pull some arbitrary numbers out of thin air and think that's a good idea, infact it makes you look so stupid I can't believe you just posted this.

I'll edit this post if you decide to comply.

Galgamech
2008-10-06, 07:02
Not only as a drug. That is an extremely useful plant and a lot of money could be made from hemp products. And all taxed as well.

Dream of the iris
2008-10-06, 15:20
Mr. Kitty:

True...it is illegal and there are still home growers but I never said if pot were legal there would be no more home growers, but rather the amount of home growers would probably remain the same...if not less. I don't know where you come from but around the East Coast there isn't a whole lot of people who grow their own. I would say 99 percent of my friends smoke pot and out of all of those friends, maybe a few of them know someone who grows. I don't even know of anyone directly who grows. Although the circumstances for others might be different depending on where they live, I would imagine most pot to be either imported from Canada or Mexico and if it is in fact home grown in the U.S its probably grown by a few big people producing massive amounts for specific areas of the U.S. But don't get me wrong there are still those good old home growers who produce enough for themselves and their friends but consider the amount of people in America who demand pot...like on a regular basis. There needs to be some means of mass production in order to satisfy those potheads who demands access to pot at all times. And on that notion where you can grow 6 plants in California, you know its technically legalized medicinally but does that really stop the Federal Government from raiding those poor people? Its unfortunate but although a state might legalize it...if its federally illegal then someone will do something about it. But I will give you this: You are most certainly right about people not caring whether you grow it or not. It would be one of those dumb laws that everyone knows is illegal but its so insignificant that no one would really care to report...like jay walking.

Gallows
2008-10-06, 23:07
I'm going to make an educated guess here and say because the process of making a cigarette takes alot longer than simply picking some bud off a plant, drying it off and lighting it on fire?

Besides people can smoke two packs of cigs a day, that would take alot of plants...With weed you can get all you need of a couple plants.

I don't really know, if I'm wrong about this and tobacco is easy to grow and cultivate than people are just fucking stupid. But if marijuana ever became legal where I am I'll just grow it for free.

You are wrong about this. But, you said you may be. Actually, with tobacco, the yields are way higher. There is the same amount of processing as is with marijuana. A soil area of approximately 1 metre by 8 metres will be able to sustain 50 plants, producing enough tobacco for well over 5,000 cigarettes. With tobacco, you harvest all the leaf mass not just the flowers, so you use practically the whole plant. I started growing 'baccy two years ago(with Virginia Gold seeds from eBay) once I realized how cheap it was. I don't even smoke tobacco, but I save my friends alot of money.

949884573
2008-10-08, 10:25
In my opinion, weed shouldn't be legalized. mainly for health reasons and also with its legalization, access to it by children would be easier, and they certainly shouldnt be adding foreign chemicals to their brains while theyre going through puberty. and im sure theres other uncertain social and health issues. however, i am all for the decriminalization of 1/2 o and/ 2-3 plants for personal use. no one should go to jail or have a crimnal record for smoking a lil weed

Thousands of years of people(including children) consuming cannabis for food and medicine without any harmful effects on their development means nothing since the US government and the governments that try to be like it are saying WEED IS DANGEROUS?

Terribly incorrect. There are more harmful chemicals in the food americans eat than in cannabis. It is also not foreign chemicals entering the brain. Cannabis has been with us since time began for our species. It does not contain any harmful foreign chemicals.

Access to it by children would not be easier. Children would have safe access to it as a food source and medicine rather than being offered weed by random dealers or their friends as a "drug for fun". The only thing bad about kids using it, is when they use too much, and the fact that inhaling smoke isn't exactly a safe way to consume anything, and they only use too much because their parents and schools won't tell them the truth about it.

The more potent it is, the safer it is for people to smoke it because they don't need to inhale as much smoke to get the same effect.

But also, the toxins in the air from pollution are more harmful than cannabis smoke. A good example is a pharmaceutical company like Eli Lilly, which was involved in a cover up scandal when evidence of dangerous side effects from some of their drugs was leaked.

It was found that zyprexa for example, an antidepressant, actually doesn't help with depression and instead causes diabetes and other health problems. Eli Lilly knew this, but decided to cover it up and sell the drug to people anyway so they could profit when the people ended up with diabetes and started buying the drugs they make for treatment of diabetes.

Why would you put your trust in pharmaceutical corporations then? Eli Lilly is just one example, I could go on and on about stuff like this. Remember Vioxx? Maybe not. Merck, Monsanto, etc.

You assume these man made drugs are safer because they've been through FDA approval, when in reality the FDA is a joke and it's owned by several of these corporations.

It's sad and silly at the same time, that people are so afraid of an herbal medicine because in their short life time, they've been told it's dangerous. They're so ignorant of the truth. Herbal medicine has been around far longer than your pharmaceutical crap and its safety has been proven. The only people doubting its safety are either ignorant and brain washed, or they have their own motives for denying it, perhaps for profit.

nincumpoop
2008-10-08, 10:28
Tobacco is legalized and people don't grow their own. Instead, they pay ridiculously high prices to buy cigarettes. Why would it be any different for weed?

Easier to grow weed than to grow tobacco, cure it and then fucking roast it etc. Weed you grow-dry-smoke, 3 steps, Even the biggest hillbilly from the most southern of states could just about manage this i think.

nincumpoop
2008-10-08, 10:35
Mr. Kitty:

True...it is illegal and there are still home growers but I never said if pot were legal there would be no more home growers, but rather the amount of home growers would probably remain the same...if not less. I don't know where you come from but around the East Coast there isn't a whole lot of people who grow their own. I would say 99 percent of my friends smoke pot and out of all of those friends, maybe a few of them know someone who grows. I don't even know of anyone directly who grows. Although the circumstances for others might be different depending on where they live, I would imagine most pot to be either imported from Canada or Mexico and if it is in fact home grown in the U.S its probably grown by a few big people producing massive amounts for specific areas of the U.S. But don't get me wrong there are still those good old home growers who produce enough for themselves and their friends but consider the amount of people in America who demand pot...like on a regular basis. There needs to be some means of mass production in order to satisfy those potheads who demands access to pot at all times. And on that notion where you can grow 6 plants in California, you know its technically legalized medicinally but does that really stop the Federal Government from raiding those poor people? Its unfortunate but although a state might legalize it...if its federally illegal then someone will do something about it. But I will give you this: You are most certainly right about people not caring whether you grow it or not. It would be one of those dumb laws that everyone knows is illegal but its so insignificant that no one would really care to report...like jay walking.

The reason none of your friends grow, is due to the legal implications my friend. If it was legal then it would be just like having a potted plant. How many of your friends have potted plants in their homes?

Now don't get me wrong, i'm all for the legalization of bud, it will get rid of the really low grades for good, Which will be excellent. But i just don't like it when people say things clearly without thinking, that is all, Some good ideas/notions in your post, but seriously mate, think a little.

nincumpoop
2008-10-08, 10:37
The more potent it is, the safer it is for people to smoke it because they don't need to inhale as much smoke to get the same effect.



The more potent it is, the safer? doubtful. It'll get you stoned quicker i know that. it will probably be smoother up until you get to the seriously strong shit, which is like a cough toke every time.

Anyway if it was made legal, we could just vaporize. ^^, No smoke, No coughs.

949884573
2008-10-08, 12:48
The more potent it is, the safer?

Less smoke in the lungs = safer. How can you possibly be too retarded to understand that? I understand that in the UK, particularly england, the weed is often tainted with bizarre things like silica dust and the hash is often cut with shoe polish or whatever, but that isn't so common in many other countries.

Our media is also not fixated on "SUPER POTENT DANGEROUS SKUNK", so that would be another reason more of us would understand more potent = safer.



it will probably be smoother up until you get to the seriously strong shit, which is like a cough toke every time.
It's not necessarily a cough toke every time unless,


Easier to grow weed than to grow tobacco, cure it and then fucking roast it etc. Weed you grow-dry-smoke, 3 steps


your dealer was too retarded to cure it properly and instead dried it immediately, or it was tainted with something. Or, you're one of those people that would try to take as big a hit as possible when someone offers you a joint, in which case you should be punched in the mouth.


Anyway if it was made legal, we could just vaporize. ^^, No smoke, No coughs. A lot of people will still cough from a vaporizer. The same kind of people that would cough from a joint.

Dream of the iris
2008-10-08, 16:31
Truebudsmoker....

That may be true but even if it was legalized other factors which would deter one from growing on their own would still exist. Consider the time and effort it would take to grow a plant and then on top of that selling it to people? And I don't mean growing mid...I mean growing top of the line premium stuff that would be competitive with with large corporations. The demand for pot is much too high for home growers to handle. Producing enough pot for the entire population of America who smokes on a regular basis would require a considerable amount of home growers. And because these would be individuals with their own lives to attend to the cost of home grown stuff would probably be higher than corporatized bud because of the labor it would require of them. Large corporations such as cigarette companies would completely wipe these guys out in business anyway because corporate products would be cheaper and of higher quality and could be easily accessible compared to buying some from a friend down the street who may not be available at all times let alone have any at the time. I knew a guy whose entire family had an underground pot business going. They had very sophisticated equipment and produced a pretty large yield. Stuff was top of the line but because the demand was so high, each yield would disappear within a matter of days. So what ended up happening was at least for another month or so you couldn't get any. Like I said, the amount of growers would stay relatively the same because corporations would be able to tame the independent market just as it always has with just about every single product you buy. People could produce their own milk by keeping a cow in the back yard, but no one does this simply because its much more convenient to buy it for a couple of bucks down the street. I mean sure a cow might not cost a whole lot of money and perhaps making milk from a cow wouldn't be too difficult but no one will do it because it does involve fixed and variable costs as well as some amount of labor.

ShqipTAR
2008-10-09, 00:21
Truebudsmoker....

That may be true but even if it was legalized other factors which would deter one from growing on their own would still exist. Consider the time and effort it would take to grow a plant and then on top of that selling it to people? And I don't mean growing mid...I mean growing top of the line premium stuff that would be competitive with with large corporations. The demand for pot is much too high for home growers to handle. Producing enough pot for the entire population of America who smokes on a regular basis would require a considerable amount of home growers. And because these would be individuals with their own lives to attend to the cost of home grown stuff would probably be higher than corporatized bud because of the labor it would require of them. Large corporations such as cigarette companies would completely wipe these guys out in business anyway because corporate products would be cheaper and of higher quality and could be easily accessible compared to buying some from a friend down the street who may not be available at all times let alone have any at the time. I knew a guy whose entire family had an underground pot business going. They had very sophisticated equipment and produced a pretty large yield. Stuff was top of the line but because the demand was so high, each yield would disappear within a matter of days. So what ended up happening was at least for another month or so you couldn't get any. Like I said, the amount of growers would stay relatively the same because corporations would be able to tame the independent market just as it always has with just about every single product you buy. People could produce their own milk by keeping a cow in the back yard, but no one does this simply because its much more convenient to buy it for a couple of bucks down the street. I mean sure a cow might not cost a whole lot of money and perhaps making milk from a cow wouldn't be too difficult but no one will do it because it does involve fixed and variable costs as well as some amount of labor.
Cannabis can grow 18 feet high, I have no idea how much bud that would produce, but I'm sure enough to supply a city for a month.

Revvy
2008-10-09, 00:50
It doesn't matter if people homegrow ffs. It's still taking money out of the criminal underworld and putting it back into the national economy.

ShqipTAR
2008-10-09, 00:54
It doesn't matter if people homegrow ffs. It's still taking money out of the criminal underworld and putting it back into the national economy.

If anyone makes any actual money they just get hit with tax evasion.

The truth is if you don't want to fund terrorism, stop buying oil.

5MOK420
2008-10-09, 03:52
im going to begin writing a massive essay on this to send into congress in our time of economic meltdown, (also for my lone english class)
so please funnel any extra thoughts to [email protected]

ShqipTAR
2008-10-09, 05:22
im going to begin writing a massive essay on this to send into congress in our time of economic meltdown, (also for my lone english class)
so please funnel any extra thoughts to [email protected]

Research how cannabis has been used to feed massive populations of people since forever.

ShaoLin_D
2008-10-10, 22:19
Terribly incorrect. There are more harmful chemicals in the food americans eat than in cannabis. It is also not foreign chemicals entering the brain. Cannabis has been with us since time began for our species. It does not contain any harmful foreign chemicals.

While I agree with you food generally containing more harmful chemicals than weed, due to our industrial means of producing food on such a large scale, weed certainly isnt harmless. AAnd what I meant by foreign chemicals is that thc plus the countless other chemicals are not naturally produced within the body or brain. And in such small amounts(ie smoking a joint once a week or less) its most likely harmless, but we are a society of excess, we pride ourselves on excess, like drinking so much that you pass out and forget the night before, and throw up in our sleep. Or the obesity epidemic we're suffering in the west due to ignorance of healthy food and eating excesive amounts of cheap fast food or other ocnvenience foods. I speak from experience, I've easily smoked 10+ lbs in my lifetime from 14-24, I certainly dont regret it, couldnt change it if I did annyways, but i cant help but wonder how else I wouldve turned out had I been more serious about other things in life besides partying getting high earlier on.

Access to it by children would not be easier. Children would have safe access to it as a food source and medicine rather than being offered weed by random dealers or their friends as a "drug for fun". The only thing bad about kids using it, is when they use too much, and the fact that inhaling smoke isn't exactly a safe way to consume anything, and they only use too much because their parents and schools won't tell them the truth about it.

It would be easier because it would be sold in every corner store, simply asking people to grab em a pack or having their parents by it(which might not be socially acceptable at first, but given time, we would be conditioned to it as right of pasage much as your first drink is now.)

The more potent it is, the safer it is for people to smoke it because they don't need to inhale as much smoke to get the same effect.

Well, according to some studies, which i know you're already going to say is propaganda and furthering of an agenda for those who would profit(much like your view) but some studies are finding that higher potency weed is developing into higher instances of mental disease(which im sure that pharma companies would have a pill to fix) but im inclined to believe their research because it is adding foreign psyhotropic substances into developing brains, possibly altering permanently, their natural functions. I just dont think it's a risk we should take. Although I certainly beleive that it should be decriminalized and end it there. There is bigger problems such as food safety and quality, education and health that we should be focsuing on.