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Today, while I was bored at work I was going back through the archives of NiS (formerly known as NS&H) and remembered how damn active this forum use to be. Well, what happened? It seems like this place has been dying. I'd love to have the activity again like we did a few years ago.
Anyone got any ideas on how to get this place kicking again, and how to get people interested? Maybe start a general discussion thread or something like that about computer networking/hacking?
Numberjumbo
2008-11-01, 21:10
"hw do u hax myspace"
needtoknow
2008-11-02, 01:14
"hw do u hax myspace"
hw do u hax hotmail
EDIT: THIS HAPPENED
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2170135
RAAAAAGGGGE
Shoplifter
2008-11-02, 02:34
hw hax website?
Anyone got any ideas on how to get this place kicking again, and how to get people interested? Maybe start a general discussion thread or something like that about computer networking/hacking?
As to what actually happened, alot of knowledgeful posters left.
Most thread gets derailed by a "Switch to GNU/Linux", "Make your own keylogger", "use tor", "learn PHP" or "Common Sense".
While there's much more to be said.
IMHO a new general faq about how to *hax* and *protect* computer/s will higher the gereral poster's knowledge, and then more specific questions could be answered.
(assuming they read it, "READ BEFORE POSTING -FAQ" maybe?)
The forum's name is also quite restrictive on what sort of information goes in here, it doesn't cover SE or *local* security.
IMHO changing the name to "Information Security" will cover a wider range of subjects, and attract new posters.
needtoknow
2008-11-02, 06:24
As to what actually happened, alot of knowledgeful posters left.
Most thread gets derailed by a "Switch to GNU/Linux", "Make your own keylogger", "use tor", "learn PHP" or "Common Sense".
While there's much more to be said.
IMHO a new general faq about how to *hax* and *protect* computer/s will higher the gereral poster's knowledge, and then more specific questions could be answered.
(assuming they read it, "READ BEFORE POSTING -FAQ" maybe?)
The forum's name is also quite restrictive on what sort of information goes in here, it doesn't cover SE or *local* security.
IMHO changing the name to "Information Security" will cover a wider range of subjects, and attract new posters.
I'm going to write a artical right now that covers all the noob questions. Give me a day or two.
Numberjumbo
2008-11-02, 09:50
hw hax website?
Excuse me, kind sir. Would you mind explaining the methods used to break into a website without the webmaster's knowledge/permission?
Please, sir, I won't misuse this information and brag about my elite skill to kids at school, and I surely won't tell friends I can hack Hotmail and charge $5 per hack and then run off with the money.
Thank you, sir.
Numberjumbo
2008-11-02, 09:52
I'm going to write an article right now that covers all the noob questions. Give me a day or two.
Write an article on spelling first, lawl.
redjoker
2008-11-02, 11:18
If you want more activity here then you are really going to need some more threads that are actually interesting. Post some tutorials of some cool shit you know how to do. Talk about current events in the security world. You might also want a "Question/Answer" area for people just need to know something specific rather than a full discussion.
EDIT: You also want to start killing the trolls and subject changers. Fucking cancer.
I used to be able to spend hours in NS&H/IFIOTW, now I just pop in once in a while. There really has been a halt to activity.
Last time I posted a thread that could have turned out well, it saw absolutely no activity. There really aren't any discussions any more.
I remember a while back, someone made crypto challenges. Might have been you O RLY? They looked along the lines of.. [I'll make a quick one]
This is a simple one
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Same principle, extra step added
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They are simple, but little games like that made the place more fun.
I made a tutorial on all the HTS challenges a year or two ago. If I remember correctly, that thread racked up a fair few pages. Start up a new one, get some people together to talk about the HTS/HBH challenges? There was one javascript one I could never figure out :(
oddballz194
2008-11-02, 19:45
I remember a while back, someone made crypto challenges. Might have been you O RLY? They looked along the lines of.. [I'll make a quick one]
I mad one crypto challenge, and I intend to make a second. I didn't even get much response to the first one though -- one person tried using the key 1337, and the other got a working decryptor.
My second challenge, if I make one, should be somewhat harder.
The Methematician
2008-11-03, 21:27
Today, while I was bored at work I was going back through the archives of NiS (formerly known as NS&H) and remembered how damn active this forum use to be. Well, what happened? It seems like this place has been dying. I'd love to have the activity again like we did a few years ago.
Anyone got any ideas on how to get this place kicking again, and how to get people interested? Maybe start a general discussion thread or something like that about computer networking/hacking?
Erm....because none of you could offer any *real* help ? have you think of that ?
I remember a few months ago I ask about something here about cellular broadband and some other things...but not was it remained unanswered, but it got moved around and around and around and still remained unanswered even after I bumped it shamelessly, twice !
Totse is no longer good for any useful Q&As. I mean, when is the last time you saw a thread about phreaking ? or someone who's interested in it anymore ? While other technology section is populated with retarded moderators and phalse engineers acting like they're the ultimate authority of the said subject and instead of explaining why it is/should have been so-and-so, they just pull the "well, I'm an electrical/mechanical/nuclear engineer myself, so I am right" card.
So, well, there you have it, why this place is sooooo dead within and without N[i]S.
Erm....because none of you could offer any *real* help ? have you think of that ?
I remember a few months ago I ask about something here about cellular broadband and some other things...but not was it remained unanswered, but it got moved around and around and around and still remained unanswered even after I bumped it shamelessly, twice !
Totse is no longer good for any useful Q&As. I mean, when is the last time you saw a thread about phreaking ? or someone who's interested in it anymore ? While other technology section is populated with retarded moderators and phalse engineers acting like they're the ultimate authority of the said subject and instead of explaining why it is/should have been so-and-so, they just pull the "well, I'm an electrical/mechanical/nuclear engineer myself, so I am right" card.
So, well, there you have it, why this place is sooooo dead within and without N[i]S.
1. We don't offer help because most of the things that are asked here, were asked 100 times before. It just gets very tiresome after a while and could be easily found by using the search function or Google. The reason your 'cellular broadband whatever the fuck' thread got moved because it most likely didn't fit in this fucking forum. Also, the reason why nobody might have answered it is because A. Nobody gave a fuck, or B. Nobody really knew. So... STFU, and go back to the upper part of the list of forums.
2. You spelled "False" wrong, if that was even the word you were trying to get across.
The Methematician
2008-11-03, 21:59
1. We don't offer help because most of the things that are asked here, were asked 100 times before. It just gets very tiresome after a while and could be easily found by using the search function or Google.
There's the answer to your question right there. If I wanted to "ask" google, why would I bother go to a forum instead ? braindead ?
The reason your 'cellular broadband whatever the fuck' thread got moved because it most likely didn't fit in this fucking forum.
What part of broadband isn't *networking* you pos...
Also, the reason why nobody might have answered it is because A. Nobody gave a fuck, or B. Nobody really knew. So... STFU, and go back to the upper part of the list of forums.
I am starting to regret my presence here already,
2. You spelled "False" wrong, if that was even the word you were trying to get across.
oh yea ?? GO PHUCK YOUR SELF ...
There's the answer to your question right there. If I wanted to "ask" google, why would I bother go to a forum instead ? braindead ?
What part of broadband isn't *networking* you pos...
I am starting to regret my presence here already,
oh yea ?? GO PHUCK YOUR SELF ...
Here we go...
Most people don't bother to take the time to fucking google. They want to be spoon fed all the answers and have other people do the work for them.
*Cellular* broadband. Too bad I really can't remember what thread you're talking about. But I'm sure it was moved because it DID NOT BELONG HERE! Or was better suited in another forum.
Since you are regretting your presence here... leave. No sweat off my back in the least bit.
You spelled "Fuck" wrong too. I know it's sarcasm... it just makes you look dumb.
Miluardo
2008-11-03, 22:52
So, I just went through the JS missions on HTS in about a week. I had very VERY limited knowledge of JS before hand and would gladly explain what I did for each mission without spoiling it.
So I'll start a thread on HTS JS missions. Anyone is welcome to share on them too.
Only tell people how to find their answer, not their answer. It's not about clearing off the missions, it's about learning what they teach you. Not to mention you only get that nice little reward feeling from doing it yourself.
I don't know if any of you remember me, but I used to be fairly active here a couple years ago. I'm bored with BLTC and recently got back into hacking, so I'm down with making this thread an excellent place again.
oh, and because I've been out of the loop, what's warweed up to these days?
oddballz194
2008-11-03, 22:58
I remember you, but you're right -- it's been a while.
warweed is modding BB, and he recently took down a tutorial in RFA about satellite communications (for legal reasons -- it involved receiving free satellite television).
As for starting the new thread, anything that can get a spark of life in here is welcome. :)
Miluardo
2008-11-03, 23:03
I remember you, but you're right -- it's been a while.
warweed is modding BB, and he recently took down a tutorial in RFA about satellite communications (for legal reasons -- it involved receiving free satellite television).
As for starting the new thread, anything that can get a spark of life in here is welcome. :)
Typical of warweed to be in trouble with the law.. tisk tisk. ahah.
I've posted a really basic thread, since you're a mod can you take it over? Maybe organize it better if it takes off?
Anyway, tell me about javascript and let's get this thing going.
I'm going to eat too.. mm
redjoker
2008-11-04, 10:24
Isn't there an entire forum dedicated to cellphones? Purely rhetorical.
The Methematician
2008-11-04, 13:18
Here we go...
Most people don't bother to take the time to fucking google. They want to be spoon fed all the answers and have other people do the work for them.
Well, most people *did* google, but the fact remains that you can't phuckin interact with google, which is why bbs was created in the first place back in 89. The purpose of a phorum is to provide a venue phor Q&A, asshole.
*Cellular* broadband. Too bad I really can't remember what thread you're talking about. But I'm sure it was moved because it DID NOT BELONG HERE! Or was better suited in another forum.
Cellular *broadband* phagot. And please remember the "search" phunction. prick.
Since you are regretting your presence here... leave. No sweat off my back in the least bit.
Of course not. Whatever liquid that came off from the back of a phag like you is *certainly not* sweat. hehehe..
You spelled "Fuck" wrong too. I know it's sarcasm... it just makes you look dumb.
The fact you tried to "correct" a sarcasm makes you look even dumber.
Isn't there an entire forum dedicated to cellphones? Purely rhetorical.
Does any of these look like a cellphone to you
http://www.slashphone.com/media/data/800/880U_Telstra_m.jpghttp://www.noticiasdot.com/publicaciones/gadgetmania/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/conecta-vodafone-huawei.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2051/2192273740_27d8206db6.jpg
or your just another phag that phollows o'rly's phag train cos he's da mod...???
Cellular *broadband* phagot....
Does any of these look like a cellphone to you
http://www.slashphone.com/media/data/800/880U_Telstra_m.jpghttp://www.noticiasdot.com/publicaciones/gadgetmania/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/conecta-vodafone-huawei.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2051/2192273740_27d8206db6.jpg
or your just another phag that phollows o'rly's phag train cos he's da mod...???
You're such a fucking idiot. You said your thread was about "cellular broadband" but.... then you say the above WITH PICTURES! Get your fucking act together. Those look exactly like wireless adapters to boost signal strength. The reason you are saying cellular is beyond me.
Now, I'm done arguing. I suggest you follow suit. Anything more and I'll consider it derailing. Then me and Oddballz will talk it over, and maybe see if you need to be banned?
The Methematician
2008-11-04, 20:17
You're such a fucking idiot. You said your thread was about "cellular broadband" but.... then you say the above WITH PICTURES! Get your fucking act together. Those look exactly like wireless adapters to boost signal strength. The reason you are saying cellular is beyond me.
As a mod you better get your facts straight before you try to call me an idiot, motherfucker. Those are cellular modems for cellular broadbands and I'm using one of this to connect to the internet.
Fucking check what they are first, bitch.
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I say... what do we have here now
Cellular Modem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_modem
It includes pictures. If you would have said 'cellular modem' before maybe we would have gotten somewhere.
Now, you'll see my point here. Wireless adapter.
http://www.tycromedia.com/images/Linksys%20WPC54G%20Instant%20Wireless%20Adapter.jp g
http://www.tycromedia.com/images/Netgear%20WG111%20v2%20802.11g%2054Mbp%20Wireless% 20Adapter.jpg
See my point here. Saying cellular broadband would make me think it's about a phone. Thus, fits into the cellular forum. But saying cellular modem... it could go both ways. And they both look almost exactly alike so... there you have it.
/argument
Miluardo
2008-11-05, 01:14
Well, most people *did* google, but the fact remains that you can't phuckin interact with google, which is why bbs was created in the first place back in 89. The purpose of a phorum is to provide a venue phor Q&A, asshole.
Cellular *broadband* phagot. And please remember the "search" phunction. prick.
Of course not. Whatever liquid that came off from the back of a phag like you is *certainly not* sweat. hehehe..
The fact you tried to "correct" a sarcasm makes you look even dumber.
Does any of these look like a cellphone to you
http://www.slashphone.com/media/data/800/880U_Telstra_m.jpghttp://www.noticiasdot.com/publicaciones/gadgetmania/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/conecta-vodafone-huawei.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2051/2192273740_27d8206db6.jpg
or your just another phag that phollows o'rly's phag train cos he's da mod...???
I'll probly regret getting involved but that first one DOES in fact look kinda like a cellphone.
redjoker
2008-11-05, 02:03
He's just pissed because nobody gave a fuck about his stupid thread and because it was in the wrong forum. Since he's too fucking stupid to say that his thread involved network security we have to assume it was more related to the networks used by cell phones and belonged in the forum dedicated to cellular technologies.
Expl0itz
2008-11-05, 02:52
He's just pissed because nobody gave a fuck about his stupid thread and because it was in the wrong forum. Since he's too fucking stupid to say that his thread involved network security we have to assume it was more related to the networks used by cell phones and belonged in the forum dedicated to cellular technologies.
Quoted for truth!
Anyone got any ideas on how to get this place kicking again, and how to get people interested? Maybe start a general discussion thread or something like that about computer networking/hacking?
I believe the only solution is to rotate moderators more often, as they tend to get bored with lack of any substantive information here, as did I. You need to get these guys in to generate conversation, wait until it dies down, rinse, repeat.