What if you non-Christians were wrong? Have you every seriously considered that you might be?

Fear of God is the beginning of all wisdom...

Hmm.....

Nah.

The beginning of all wisdom is living a few years, in my opinion.

I wouldnt really care...really dont. Be interesting either way, its the difference that counts. 'To the well formed mind death is but the next great adventure.'

My life isn't dedicated to searching for god, but it's something I happen to do out of interest anyway.

If god is someone who isn't interested in the purity of someones intentions, and is only interested in whether or not we 'get it right', then he's a foolish god and so doesn't deserve to be called a god at all.

So, you wouldn't care if you went to hell, you believe hell is a great adventure?

And I'm not sure on what you mean by isn't concerned with the purity of our intentions being opposed to getting it right. Isn't it the same thing?

What I'm saying is that we could be a person who tries extremely hard to find out what is the right religeon. We desperately want to please god and get into heaven. These are good intentions, but it might turn out that we pick a wrong religeon and are thrown into hell. We tried with all our hearts but god is foolish so it counts for nothing.

God isn't foolish. God is as wise as wise gets, and throwing people into hell for not picking the correct religeon is far from a wise act. Therefore I don't believe that god would have the christian concept of hell as part of his universe.

what if you spent your ENTIRE life trying to get into heaven when you died. You denied yourself pleasures, you persecuted and allowed yourself to be persecuted. You did all the hard crap only to find at the very moment of death that you were in heaven all along but were to foolish to notice so you wound up wasting it so that you were really in hell all along.

What would you change this time around?

Maybe it is the beginning, and then after we begin to learn more, the fear begins to go away and is replaced by something different.

Maybe that's why these other guys aren't worried about the threat of hell.

look no one can prove anything about anything. the only absolute truth in life is that there is no absolute truth.

and have you christians ever considered that you are wrong, oh but you cant do that becasue that would mean your entire sad, meaningless existance would have been even more sad and meaningless than before!!

the begining of all wisdom is the enhilation of all ignorance.

you have just started a pointless arguement that will inevitably result in a "yes-no" stlye bickering session (and dont contridict this comment with the response "then why bother responding" because i have to argue with people whose entire arguement is based around crap and which none can be proved!!)

You can't say that! That's what I've been saying and no one agrees with it. Except I've been saying, "The only absolute truth is that there is no other absolute truth", because what you're saying is a self-cancelling non-statement.