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caesius 2003-08-03 12:45

I, am neither christian nor atheist. I believe what proves itself to be true.

Ok, so according to Christians; god created the world and life in seven days and that God (a human) was the first (living) organism on earth.

The scientists may rebutt to this by citing the fact that there is vast geological and scientific proof that the world was in fact crafted over millions of years and that organisms 'evolve'.

Alright christains, where did God come from? And, - putting things very scientifically - is he energy or matter. Or is he some force we have yet to discover?

Beany 2003-08-03 13:50

It's a shame this question is only directed towards christians. Otherwise I'd be happy to share ideas.

Kikey_Kikeowitz 2003-08-03 14:57

Most of the beginning of Genesis is not meant to be taken literally. 'Days' to God could be billions of years, for all you know.

BTW...

Alright, caesius. Putting things VERY scientifically - where did energy come from?

Hammer&Sickle 2003-08-03 18:04

like what my friedn wrote above genisis is not meant to be taken litterally and is not specifically what christians believe, and We do not know if God is human (except for Jesus) he is possibly spirtual energy, nature whatever, you just personified him as human which is utterly stupid. Jesus is considered God to christians because he was the perfect human who contributed his entire life to ensure the survival of the human race. so really there is no argument here. Christianity and Science are two truths we just don't understand something in between.

Viraljimmy 2003-08-03 18:44

I don't think religion or science have many answers, as far as the big picture goes.

Look for yourself. Eat some acid. Think for yourself.

Zman 2003-08-03 23:10

About Genesis,

There are scientists that prove evolution,

Then there are other ones that refute that.

Then there are others that try to find a middle line, by making there own scientific hypothises, or saying the 6 days is actually not literal, like they are increments of billions of years, or stages. Or merging it all.

Now where did God come from? What is He.

Well, Stephen Hawking wrote a book about where particles came from. They had to come from nowhere, too. What happens is really unimaginable to our minds. It spontaneously appears. Electrons, protons, etc... just appear as with space and time. They are dimensions that aren't always there. At the edge of the universe there is a physical end to space. Then there is absolutely nothing, not even a vacuum.

Now this all had to just appear so why couldn't God?

Kikey_Kikeowitz 2003-08-03 23:43

Don't be ripping my clever philosophical arguments, Zman.

I put them so much more cleverly. What took you an entire paragraph to explain, I did perfectly with only 10 words.

caesius 2003-08-04 05:02

Looks like I've got a few people angery, sorry about that - I'm not denouncing christ, in fact I do like to consider myself a christain.

Just interested in each sides veiws.\

Maybe God can only be explained by science and science can only be explained by God.

- Cheers

Kikey_Kikeowitz 2003-08-04 10:54

Hey, you side-stepping snake, answer my question.

Don't sidle out of the way, not when I so elegantly made your question look rediculous.

caesius 2003-08-04 11:53

No, you didn't make my question look stupid. I'm asking for opinions - not stating what I beleive.

Who knows where energy comes from? God maybe?


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