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Post by Winnebago » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:41 am

I stumbled upon newtotse yesterday and in a burst of nostalgia, I registered. I visited the original a lot around '03, perhaps '04, when I was about 20. Back then, it wasn't the most savory of places either. Even my 20 yo self could recognize that, though I had a higher tolerance for it. Around that age, you're still finding out who you want to be and exploring your own limits.

The exploring never ends, but the limits are far clearer for me now. The few examples of racism I've seen here is way beyond acceptable (what is acceptable of course depends on your frame of reference. Mine is humanity). The anti-science stance (especially when it comes to climate change) here is astonishing. Gun advocacy leaning to sectarianism. Right wing politics aren't my flavor, but as long as you're not a complete dumbass about it, I'm absolutely fine with disagreeing with you and maybe have a good discussion about it.

You could be excused when you were just a young fool finding his way in life. But if you're familiar with totse and still adhere to the same principles without change, you're way too old to be a young fool.

I have the feeling I'm just scratching the surface here, but it's only been 24 hours. And I'd love to be wrong, so please prove me so. Let the flaming begin...

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Das Troll » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:07 am

OG Totse was the brain child of an older generation that was simply interested in free speech. Jeff and JC Stanton were older adults by that time if memory serves. Their only goal was to keep information open and free as long as it wasn't illegal. Back in the late 80s and early 90s, when Totse was an actual dialup BBS, there was the right wing moral police. You remember the bible humpers and God botherers who were sticking their fingers in everything from video games, to music, to TV. Totse was a safe haven for people who were seeking that forbidden knowledge. That sort of thought process always brings the young, impressionable youth out. What happened to you was you got older and perhaps wiser.

Today we have the same moral police except they are on the left side. The ibram kendi or Robin Diangelo types are out there to force you to believe what they believe and they will use whatever means they need to get that done. They will squish debate, descent, and even down right facts like the recent 2+2=5 argument just to get you to bend the knee. They're the same type of people that were around in the 80s and 90s who were calling Rock and Roll devil music.

Why does all this matter? Totse/NewTotse is a haven for all things free speech. This is your place to say what you want about things without fear of reprisal, that is unless it's illegal or it breaks some site wide rule like doxxing. You don't have to like what is said here, you don't have to respond to what's said, you don't even have to stay (although I hope you do. Unlike places like reddit, I welcome all forms of speech and ideas).

So post, reply, create, destroy. You don't need to post in forums like Half Baked, Bitch and Moan, ect. You can make your home in other forums like DIY or The Great Outdoors where politics is either moved to it's proper forum or simply ignored. In fact I think that a politics only board should be created just for that fact. But at the end of the day, it's up to you.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Das Troll » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:16 am

But to answer the question, was it racist? Sort of. If you mean racist as a bunch of young adults yelling the word nigger to illicit a response then sure. I personally don't think people are as racist as they seem. If you drill down on even a "clear cut" racist you often find that they don't dislike a person because of their race, they dislike the person because of their culture or a way they act.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Winnebago » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:34 am

Thank you for such a considerate response!

Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. It can grind your gears, offend you, make you uncomfortable. All these things are necessary to progress to a better future. So count me in on that.

But too often, free speech is used as an excuse to offend, to insult, to express racism, to incite fury. To advocate anti-elitism, anti-intellectualism. That's when you're sailing dangerous waters, and I think many of our societies have arrived at that point. You can say whatever you want, because that's how you feel and feelings can't be wrong. If you repeat that long enough, individual feelings get mixed up for fact, taken up by larger groups. And start to polarize.

That's why you perhaps identify a 'moral police on the left side'. They are opposite to their worldview and their vision on improving society rubs you the wrong way. I think that's not the case. They just want this world to be a better place for everyone (though there definitely are those who are more interested in imposing their worldview and way of life on others).

It's an uncomfortable truth for ruthless, irrespective free speech advocates: you need to think before you speak.We need to be considerate, nuanced, take facts (the science kind) and feelings into consideration when expressing ourselves to achieve some sort of goal. Other wise, you'll only achieve adversity.

I respect what the original totse did. They created a safe haven for people who wanted to think differently, express different ideas. That continues to be something to strive for. But we've learned in these last twenty or so years. We know that just saying whatever your impulses want you to does not lead to a better understanding of each other, but only to polarization. We're only digging ourselves deeper in our trenches this way, working to the only way a trench war can be resolved: a climax, a crisis, an eruption of some sorts. Something not too dissimilar to what we're seeing in the streets of America today.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Winnebago » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:39 am

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Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:16 am
But to answer the question, was it racist? Sort of. If you mean racist as a bunch of young adults yelling the word nigger to illicit a response then sure. I personally don't think people are as racist as they seem. If you drill down on even a "clear cut" racist you often find that they don't dislike a person because of their race, they dislike the person because of their culture or a way they act.
And to respond to that: that's also the kind of racism I experienced bach in the early oughts (and I think I used some of it myself). But we've learned that words have meaning, that they make people feel a certain way, that using them has (in the short or longer term) has consequences. So I think that's what bothers me. We don't need to be those shouty teenagers anymore to get a response. I hope we've grown up and can express our ideas without resorting to degrading (groups of) people based on the colour of their skin, the country they're from, their sexual oreintation etc. Ideas and actions are far better standards to judge someone by.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Helladamnleet » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:44 am

I think OG Totse was just as racist, but when you amplify the amount of active posters by 10,000 those few hundred racist people isn't as noticeable.


I don't even think anyone here is specifically racist. I know I make a lot of generalizations, but I have black cousins, and two black nephews from two different sources (one is my brothers kid, one is my sister in law's kid).


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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Kheron » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:55 am

A few ppl here could probably step out of their bubble a bit and realize racism is just a ploy for the elite to pit us against each other, but... oh well, lol. As Helladamnleet implied, as this place grows the stances will be more balanced. I'm probably the only one here right now that leans towards socialist ideologies/thinks we're in a class war.

Anyway, good to have more people here to talk with, anyhow.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Das Troll » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:32 am

Kheron wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:55 am
A few ppl here could probably step out of their bubble a bit and realize racism is just a ploy for the elite to pit us against each other
At the risk of sounding conspiratorial, this right here. All they want is for us to consume and fight each other. That way we won't notice all the bad shit they do because we are to busy fighting about the most inane bullshit like manspreading on a bus or train.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Winnebago » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:36 pm

Das Troll wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:32 am
Kheron wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:55 am
A few ppl here could probably step out of their bubble a bit and realize racism is just a ploy for the elite to pit us against each other
At the risk of sounding conspiratorial, this right here. All they want is for us to consume and fight each other. That way we won't notice all the bad shit they do because we are to busy fighting about the most inane bullshit like manspreading on a bus or train.
A slight bit of racism is in our nature I think. We have an unrational, evolutionary embedded fear of the unknown. The slightest of signals is sent when we see a person that doesn't look like us. But: we should be waaaaaay beyond that. We know that those differences are only superficial.

Polarizing people could be in favor of those in power. Divide and conquer, and all that. Still, it's a bit too conspiratory for me to think that "the elite" use racism as a tool for their end.

P.s. It's fun being here and arguing with people :)

P.p.s. If manspreading actually bothers people, I think it's a conversation worth to be having. We're all together on this pale blue dot. Why not try to get along with each other, even if it takes such small adjustments of our own behavior?

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Kheron » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:49 pm

Eh, racism just wasn't even a thing for ages. You were a slave, poor/a peasant, rich/a noble, or were a politician. Then there was, like, the Church, which exists/existed somewhere outside that as their own Caste. We've always, always, ALWAYS been a class/caste based society/species, everywhere, at every point in history.

It's just that we used to be HONEST about it instead of calling people niggers and shit. Religion, race, sexual orientation/identity, it's all means to divide us. Anti union propaganda. When you realize the subtle - but sinister - ways that those in power maintain their power, you start to recognize why society is structured the way it is.

Our current system isn't broken. It's just working exactly as intended. Billionaires have made SO much off the pandemic. You have shit like Papa John's saying giving their workers healthcare word run them out of business, but all they had to do was charge an extra $0.25 per pizza to pay for it. We had our own Government, under Bush or Obama (I forget) put out a report saying all it'd take for a peaceful/unarmed takeover of the Capitol would be like 2-3 million people. At that point the Gov would deem it a lost cause to try and fight and just lay down arms. It'd take less than my state of Minnesota to take over the Government without even using weapons.

It takes a small number of people in a workplace to unionize and demand better wages (until your boss lays off like 500 ppl in one location just cus 12 of them used that dirty dirty word).

Side note, considering the importance of air traffic controllers and the fact that you can't replace them (Reagan, I think it was, tried to with the military but you need like a min 2 years training at each individual location even with prior exp; we're still not back to where we were DECADES ago) means that a handful (exaggerating, obv) of people in the right position could just go on strike and demand that the entire world stop fucking being so shitty or else there will be no air travel whatsoever. Demand fair treatment, access to healthcare, food, housing, etc. We can fucking DO it. Tax based healthcare is cheaper than paying hundreds in private premiums. We have more houses than homeless people. Enough food to end world hunger (if it was where it needed to be, foreign aid wasn't being stolen by despots, and if we didn't throw away insane amounts every year)

It's honestly so infuriating that the world's problems are fixable, yet everyone is too busy fighting each other to realize that, like, 100 companies are the cause of most of the pollution/pollution based climate change. That a handful of politicians are holding their various governments hostage and abusing their respective systems to ensure a minority fascist takeover happens. That all the intelligence communities agree that shit like Brexit, the 2016 (and now 2020) American election, and various other countries elections, were all influenced by Russia. That Mitch McConnell keeps blocking election security bills. The list goes on and on.

I legit think we need a revolution since the powers that be are too comfy and cozy to give us masses some breadcrumbs, but everyone is too lazy and apathetic to actually fucking try and improve the world.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Helladamnleet » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:00 pm

Winnebago wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:36 pm
Das Troll wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:32 am
Kheron wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:55 am
A few ppl here could probably step out of their bubble a bit and realize racism is just a ploy for the elite to pit us against each other
At the risk of sounding conspiratorial, this right here. All they want is for us to consume and fight each other. That way we won't notice all the bad shit they do because we are to busy fighting about the most inane bullshit like manspreading on a bus or train.
A slight bit of racism is in our nature I think. We have an unrational, evolutionary embedded fear of the unknown. The slightest of signals is sent when we see a person that doesn't look like us. But: we should be waaaaaay beyond that. We know that those differences are only superficial.

Polarizing people could be in favor of those in power. Divide and conquer, and all that. Still, it's a bit too conspiratory for me to think that "the elite" use racism as a tool for their end.

P.s. It's fun being here and arguing with people :)

P.p.s. If manspreading actually bothers people, I think it's a conversation worth to be having. We're all together on this pale blue dot. Why not try to get along with each other, even if it takes such small adjustments of our own behavior?
No, it's actually being able to see these people for who they are instead of trying to make up for shit we had nothing to do with. I can trace my family tree back to Ireland on both sides. We never owned slaves. Hell, WE were a minority, but you don't see US shooting each other and blaming it on whitey.
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Post by Kheron » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:33 pm

Wait, what? I coulda swore dad claimed his bio parents were 100% German. You can trace his side back to Ireland??? I def want info on this, I'm interested in learning more of our ancestry.

But back to the topic: when the Irish were enslaved and oppressed they were treated like the blacks were/are. And while, socially, it isn't a huge issue outside of the UK & Ireland anymore, it's not like black ppl can just stop being black. Plus I wouldn't say it's fair at all to say that they're being treated equally even now. There's still ppl alive that dealt with segregation. They still deal with so many problems to this day, even if it is a lot better than it was.

Now, if they can get a truly equal footing and STILL have gangs and shit pulling the shit they do, fine. And on a related note: Fuck BLM as a structured organization. I'll never forget them taking the mic from Bernie in 2016 and screaming at him for being a racist or white dude. He literally walked with MLK. And he advocated for having a female president in like the 80s. And he has been pro LGBT for like, his entire career I think? Bernie is just a kind old man that wants the world to be a better place, and to act like he's some Ebil White Devil is just...jesus. And they WONDER why people don't trust them. Talk about shooting yourself in the fucking foot

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Post by Das Troll » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:15 pm

Winnebago wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:36 pm
Das Troll wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:32 am
Kheron wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:55 am
A few ppl here could probably step out of their bubble a bit and realize racism is just a ploy for the elite to pit us against each other
At the risk of sounding conspiratorial, this right here. All they want is for us to consume and fight each other. That way we won't notice all the bad shit they do because we are to busy fighting about the most inane bullshit like manspreading on a bus or train.
A slight bit of racism is in our nature I think. We have an unrational, evolutionary embedded fear of the unknown. The slightest of signals is sent when we see a person that doesn't look like us. But: we should be waaaaaay beyond that. We know that those differences are only superficial.

Polarizing people could be in favor of those in power. Divide and conquer, and all that. Still, it's a bit too conspiratory for me to think that "the elite" use racism as a tool for their end.

P.s. It's fun being here and arguing with people :)

P.p.s. If manspreading actually bothers people, I think it's a conversation worth to be having. We're all together on this pale blue dot. Why not try to get along with each other, even if it takes such small adjustments of our own behavior?
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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Winnebago » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:36 am

Das Troll wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:15 pm
Winnebago wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:36 pm
Das Troll wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:32 am
Kheron wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:55 am
A few ppl here could probably step out of their bubble a bit and realize racism is just a ploy for the elite to pit us against each other
At the risk of sounding conspiratorial, this right here. All they want is for us to consume and fight each other. That way we won't notice all the bad shit they do because we are to busy fighting about the most inane bullshit like manspreading on a bus or train.
A slight bit of racism is in our nature I think. We have an unrational, evolutionary embedded fear of the unknown. The slightest of signals is sent when we see a person that doesn't look like us. But: we should be waaaaaay beyond that. We know that those differences are only superficial.

Polarizing people could be in favor of those in power. Divide and conquer, and all that. Still, it's a bit too conspiratory for me to think that "the elite" use racism as a tool for their end.

P.s. It's fun being here and arguing with people :)

P.p.s. If manspreading actually bothers people, I think it's a conversation worth to be having. We're all together on this pale blue dot. Why not try to get along with each other, even if it takes such small adjustments of our own behavior?
You know what bothers me? Crushed balls.
Look at this guy humble bragging about the size of his balls.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Helladamnleet » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:20 am

Kheron wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:33 pm
Wait, what? I coulda swore dad claimed his bio parents were 100% German. You can trace his side back to Ireland??? I def want info on this, I'm interested in learning more of our ancestry.

But back to the topic: when the Irish were enslaved and oppressed they were treated like the blacks were/are. And while, socially, it isn't a huge issue outside of the UK & Ireland anymore, it's not like black ppl can just stop being black. Plus I wouldn't say it's fair at all to say that they're being treated equally even now. There's still ppl alive that dealt with segregation. They still deal with so many problems to this day, even if it is a lot better than it was.

Now, if they can get a truly equal footing and STILL have gangs and shit pulling the shit they do, fine. And on a related note: Fuck BLM as a structured organization. I'll never forget them taking the mic from Bernie in 2016 and screaming at him for being a racist or white dude. He literally walked with MLK. And he advocated for having a female president in like the 80s. And he has been pro LGBT for like, his entire career I think? Bernie is just a kind old man that wants the world to be a better place, and to act like he's some Ebil White Devil is just...jesus. And they WONDER why people don't trust them. Talk about shooting yourself in the fucking foot
The truth about dad's side is he doesn't know shit about his biological parents.

No, black people can't stop being black, but that's a weak ass argument considering they CAN stop being gang members, they CAN stop selling crack to each other, they CAN hold jobs for longer than it takes for child support to come out, they CAN stop running out on their children, they CAN stop shooting at each other with illegal guns, they CAN stop burglarizing people.

As wrong as stereotypes are, they usually stem from reality.

I'm not saying all black people are like that either. I have VERY booshie black cousins who don't even associate with my broke ass, two black nephews, et cetera. The majority are and that's where the problem lies.
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Post by Kheron » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:29 am

We have to fix the circumstances that lead to gangs forming, tho. This isn't even my trying to defend black people, it's just that, realistically, there's more to gang formation than "we like killing and drugs." A lot of them started as ways to protect their communities, kinda like mafias. There's a lot of systemic problems that need to be addressed first. Hell, in some of the urban hellscapes you can be born into miles of residential blocks and each one bordering your neighborhood (and maybe even your neighborhood) can be gang controlled. To even survive you'll need one of them protecting/not killing you. In those cases, you have zero choice, because you can't even just up and leave since you'd be leaving thru gang territory in every direction. They're like hostile little micro-nations.

I want things to improve not just because I think black ppl have had it hard, but because I'm sick of the overall suffering. Life would be better for everyone if we just stopped this nonsense and tried to fix shit.

Tho, if we fix shit and they still form gangs and shit, whatever. I'll probably actually start thinking they're just inherently pieces of shit. But until then, I'm all for dat solidarity. Besides, I still think it's class warfare redesigned. Our true enemy will always be the Landlord, the Government, the Noble/Corporation. They're the ones manipulating us. They're the ones repressing us. They're the ones that have us trapped in a wage slave system. They're the ones that run the show and they're the ones we need to unite against if we want any hope of improving life for the 99%

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Post by Helladamnleet » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:04 pm

So maybe we should send them back to fucking Africa 🤷‍♀️
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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Das Troll » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:10 pm

Winnebago wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:36 am
Das Troll wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:15 pm
Winnebago wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:36 pm
Das Troll wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:32 am
Kheron wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:55 am
A few ppl here could probably step out of their bubble a bit and realize racism is just a ploy for the elite to pit us against each other
At the risk of sounding conspiratorial, this right here. All they want is for us to consume and fight each other. That way we won't notice all the bad shit they do because we are to busy fighting about the most inane bullshit like manspreading on a bus or train.
A slight bit of racism is in our nature I think. We have an unrational, evolutionary embedded fear of the unknown. The slightest of signals is sent when we see a person that doesn't look like us. But: we should be waaaaaay beyond that. We know that those differences are only superficial.

Polarizing people could be in favor of those in power. Divide and conquer, and all that. Still, it's a bit too conspiratory for me to think that "the elite" use racism as a tool for their end.

P.s. It's fun being here and arguing with people :)

P.p.s. If manspreading actually bothers people, I think it's a conversation worth to be having. We're all together on this pale blue dot. Why not try to get along with each other, even if it takes such small adjustments of our own behavior?
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Look at this guy humble bragging about the size of his balls.
I don't need to humble brag, I have rather large balls. My last girlfriend would just randomly play with them and compliment me on my testicles. I'm proud of my masculine virility.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Das Troll » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:11 pm

Helladamnleet wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:04 pm
So maybe we should send them back to fucking Africa 🤷‍♀️
They tried that with Liberia when the civil war ended. Look how Liberia turned out.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Helladamnleet » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:23 am

Who cares? It's NIMBY
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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Das Troll » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:36 pm

Helladamnleet wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:23 am
Who cares? It's NIMBY
There is sort of a "come home black man" type movement going on now. Considering how much black Africans don't like black African Americans it probably won't end well. It turns out they're not really black African Americans coming home to be Africans, they're just rich black African Americans that Africans like even less.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Kheron » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:05 pm

Oh? Who woulda thought that it's more complex than simply displacing thousands/millions of people.

It's like no one learned it doesn't work like that after we just gave the Jews a bunch of land after WW2 and they've been at war ever since,trying to genocide the Palestinians. Who are also trying to genocide the jews...

Seems like grown up problems require grown up solutions.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Helladamnleet » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:59 pm

>Thread about racism
>Gives perfect example of Jews being Jews.

I also could post:

>Cries about how black people aren't niggers
>Even Africa doesn't want them
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Post by Kheron » Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:54 pm

Since when is genocide a Jewish stereotype? It's not like they're positioning themselves to own all of the Palestinian banks and driving everyone out of business. They're just straight up murdering them. Tho tbf the Palestinians aren't exactly good either, Israel is just... worse.

Tho I only brought it up to show that simply relocating people isn't a good idea anyway.

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Post by Helladamnleet » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:24 pm

.... Trying to steal something that isn't theirs...?


It's not relocating them. Bringing them to America in the first place (after we PURCHASED THEM FROM AFRICAN {see BLACK} SLAVE TRADERS) was relocating them. Shipping their ass back to Africa like they spout off at the mouth about being so great would be closer to deporting them.
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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Kheron » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:57 pm

Dude, after WW2 we placed Jews in Israel. We took land from other people, gave it to the Jews, and said "Surely this will solve all your problems, now no one will want your land" except the people we took it from and all their neighbors.

As for black people, idk if the fact it was LEGAL to purchase them at the time makes it any better...

Not to mention it's been how long? They've been here for many generations? Sending them to countries their their grandfather's grandfather never saw is, frankly, fucking stupid. It solves nothing, and it creates more problems. The only thing it does is let childish racists get their white ethnostate, as if the proclaimed superiority of Aryans wasn't shown to be laughably ignorant when they lose at the Olympics (to black people even, lmao), lost WW2, and if we're gonna tie in the racist, slave owning, "Whitey is better than negroes and God decided we get to own them" confederates, they fucking lost that war, too.

Shit, it's almost like racists can hardly be trusted to tie their own shoes. All they do is lose, lose, lose...

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Das Troll » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:56 pm

Kheron wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:57 pm
The only thing it does is let childish racists get their white ethnostate
To be fair, the only people wanting a white ethnostate now are white nationalists and far left critical race theorists, they just want it in a reverse way. Instead of white only areas, they want black only areas. Even then the rich white leftists aren't good at that, exhibit A:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/uni ... afe-event/

The sad part is they're so out of touch with reality they didn't automatically realize this was a stupid idea.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Helladamnleet » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:14 am

Kheron wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:57 pm
Dude, after WW2 we placed Jews in Israel. We took land from other people, gave it to the Jews, and said "Surely this will solve all your problems, now no one will want your land" except the people we took it from and all their neighbors.

As for black people, idk if the fact it was LEGAL to purchase them at the time makes it any better...

Not to mention it's been how long? They've been here for many generations? Sending them to countries their their grandfather's grandfather never saw is, frankly, fucking stupid. It solves nothing, and it creates more problems. The only thing it does is let childish racists get their white ethnostate, as if the proclaimed superiority of Aryans wasn't shown to be laughably ignorant when they lose at the Olympics (to black people even, lmao), lost WW2, and if we're gonna tie in the racist, slave owning, "Whitey is better than negroes and God decided we get to own them" confederates, they fucking lost that war, too.

Shit, it's almost like racists can hardly be trusted to tie their own shoes. All they do is lose, lose, lose...
Oh, so it wasn't Jewland. Disregarded.


Okay, so it was legal. Using that same logic they aren't allowed to bitch about it anymore or bring it up in any way, shape, or form. Oh, wait, they still bring it up daily and use it as an excuse to call white people racist? Huh, I guess never mind.

Also, they talk ALL THE TIME about how much they'd love going back to "mother Africa". It's in popular music. Akon made a whole song about it.

Also, the fact you just waffled shows a lot. Earlier it was how black people do what they do because of racism, us keeping them down, et cetera, now all of the sudden racists lost some imaginary war despite somehow simultaneously keeping black people down.

Not to mention, you go on this big ass rant when my exact post was "Trying to steal something that isn't theirs.", then I went on to point out that bringing them to America in the first place was relocating them (because it literally was. Legal or not it's what happened).


Please form a response to what I said before moving on to the next rant :)
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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Kheron » Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:18 pm

Bro, I think you need to work on your literacy. Nothing I said is really all that hard to understand. I just fail to see how forcibly relocating US Citizens to Africa is going to do anything but cause MORE problems. For someone who says they aren't racist you sure do have a lot of racist talking points.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by black_opps » Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:48 pm

In those days racism hadnt been so artificially inflated and encouraged by rouge political interest trying to divide any nation of the world whose population has even a mild bit of self respect for there national sovereignty. In those days It was cool for white kids to be as black as possible, Thug Life was tatted on every other Jr thug. & if the system wouldnt have killed 2pac due to the fact he was starting to get into politics its likely he woulda been the first real black president & the country woulda been better off. Blacks & whites of almost all types partied together & racism was pretty much dead except in the minds of old clan members & people like Biden. But they couldnt have a united country, So they went all out with the race division psy ops & here we are with skinny lil incel white kids & rich kids who dont have any experience with "the hood" being convinced by those who have no experience with anything related to what its like to be young poor & slingin dope trying to get ahead telling people how racist this country always has been, when the fact is racism was on life support , pplug bout to be pulled, but they musterd all they minds & built it a new frankenstein body thru all these fake movements , gave it a new lease on life revived it spent a decade programming its brain & set it loose on a mission to wreak havoc.
Race was not even a thing people thought of, the common acronym of my generation was PLUR. Which ment Peace, Love, Unity, Respect.

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Re: Was the original totse so damn racist as well?

Post by Das Troll » Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:53 pm

black_opps wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:48 pm
In those days racism hadnt been so artificially inflated and encouraged by rouge political interest trying to divide any nation of the world whose population has even a mild bit of self respect for there national sovereignty. In those days It was cool for white kids to be as black as possible, Thug Life was tatted on every other Jr thug. & if the system wouldnt have killed 2pac due to the fact he was starting to get into politics its likely he woulda been the first real black president & the country woulda been better off. Blacks & whites of almost all types partied together & racism was pretty much dead except in the minds of old clan members & people like Biden. But they couldnt have a united country, So they went all out with the race division psy ops & here we are with skinny lil incel white kids & rich kids who dont have any experience with "the hood" being convinced by those who have no experience with anything related to what its like to be young poor & slingin dope trying to get ahead telling people how racist this country always has been, when the fact is racism was on life support , pplug bout to be pulled, but they musterd all they minds & built it a new frankenstein body thru all these fake movements , gave it a new lease on life revived it spent a decade programming its brain & set it loose on a mission to wreak havoc.
Race was not even a thing people thought of, the common acronym of my generation was PLUR. Which ment Peace, Love, Unity, Respect.
I have to agree, racism was on life support up until the last 20 years. Sure it was slow going, but it has to be slow going so you don't gain resentment. Things were going fine as the real racists were dying off and the few younger ones were getting pushed further and further to the edges of society. Now racism seems to be a zero sum game. If black people are to have, others must lose. That counts for Asians as well. Those poor souls are getting fucked out of rightful positions in college for what, they're not dark enough?

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