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Well well well

Post by Das Troll » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:13 am

Is this what Totse is now? Seems dead. Is anyone from the old guard still around? What's the history of this place?

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Re: Well well well

Post by Helladamnleet » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:54 am

Yes, this is what Totse is now, although this is only 1 of 3 offshoots. Most people post on either Totseans or Niggasin.space, however it seems like the crew on Niggasin.space have been semi-monitoring the progress here, so I think if they ever went down this would be the most viable choice. Being dead is why this place doesn't get attention, but oh well, going on two years online.

Basically I started this place after Totse, Zoklet, Into Sanctuary, and Red Fern all went down, and once again a site rose from the ashes claiming to not just be banking on Totse's demise. Around here I'm straight up about it, we're TRYING to be the New Totse. What it could have been if it had continued. It'll take a lot of time and effort, but one member at a time we can increase the activity.



Good to see you, Das Troll. That's a name I haven't seen in ages.
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Re: Well well well

Post by Das Troll » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:32 am

Why did Zoklet go down? I seem to remember someone doxing him and he got real spooked. I always thought he was a little too free with his personal information. I personally think those halcyon days of our totse youth is gone. I read Jeffs last post and he's right, it's the golden age of information. Back when I first found totse it was still hard to find certain information. Now you have Google. Although I don't see why one would even want to use Google for "questionable" information that was found on old totse.

Speaking of days gone past, why would you want to take on all that horse shit Jeff had to deal with. I remember him constantly complaining about getting letters from the feds about things. Now it would be a 100x worse with the stuff that's going on today. Lynching is still alive and well, except these days it's done online. People are getting 10+ years in different parts of the world for posting the Christchurch video/manifesto. Nazi and white supremacist gets thrown around at the drop of a hat just because they don't like your brand of thought. The Overton window is gone, there is very little nuance these days. I wish totse was still around too, but I just don't think it's worth it these days.

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Post by Helladamnleet » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:01 pm

SUPPOSEDLY because he got HIV and couldn't deal with the medical burden plus spend $10 a year keeping a site online.


Here's the thing, yes, any and all information that was on the original Totse is either vastly improved upon, or vastly obsolete, but the need for a place where people can DISCUSS these things, either kindly or like an asshole, is still needed, and there is an absolute vacuum of information that is terribly incomplete due to image hosts of the early 2000s going down.

One thing Zok and I agree on is that all the old text files are better left in the past. I won't even host an archive because people are bound to hurt themselves or worse with the old information, which, again, is why we need a place where we can discuss shady shit without getting banned or something equally stupid. We can't talk about shit on Reddit because of micromanagement, we can't use Totseans because Dfg is a fucking flaming homo, and Niggasin.space is for memes, not information.


Let's be honest, when we found totse back in the day, we weren't using the text files once we discovered the forum.
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Re: Well well well

Post by Das Troll » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:59 pm

Zok got HIV?! Fuck I had no idea. That would make sense. He did seem to shut everything down real quick.

As for the old text files, that was always a bone of contention in the mod mail. Some wanted to take it down due to the inaccurate nature of the texts (anarchist cookbook) and others said to keep it up because it would weed out the idiots. I personally am apart of the former. Sure idiots need to be weeded out, but not at the cost of their lives or limbs. I think the drug and explosive shit should be left in the past for various reasons, one being the dangerous nature of the bomb stuff and two you can just go to Erowid and find much better drug info.

If you are looking for a bit of history, textfiles.com has some stuff that Jeff wrote. http://textfiles.com/bbs/bbsrev.ans

I was briefly apart of the Kiwifarms before the owner got doxxed real bad and had to the shut the site down, mainly because of the Chirstchurch thing. My advice to you, if you want to make totse like the old days, simply make it a bastion of free speech. Free speech in the constitutional sense. So hate speech is 100% O.K. I assume the servers for this site is based in the USA, so people should abide by our laws. Otherwise you will simply be apart of the massive wave of censorship that's sweeping the nation. Be ready for a fight and never give out any personal info.

That's just my two cents.

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Re: Well well well

Post by Helladamnleet » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:33 am

Supposedly, yes, and yeah, the departure of Zoklet was rather sudden, but I knew it would happen the day Totse shut down and Zok started thumbing his nose at the more intelligent user base.

See, the thing is too, not every text file is useless either, but there's maybe 1 or 2 good ones for every 1,000 bad one. Personally I'd rather just allow people to discuss topics openly and get good, informed information. Even Erowid isn't what it used to be.

I appreciate your opinion on the matter. You seem to have put a lot of thought into it.
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