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Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:41 am
by Das Troll
So according to some reports the Corona virus started out at a food market in Wuhan China. The Chinese are known for eating just about anything and I'm cool with that. What I'm not cool with is how they seem to like to torture the animal with a blow torch before killing it. I've processed animals before and it takes two fucking seconds to remove the head, cut the throat, or destroy the brain. Why waste so much effort blow torching a poor dog to death when you can just crack it across the skull with a bat and then cut it's throat while it's knocked out?

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:24 am
by Enigma
What bugs me about tho Corona virus is that there's such varying information. For example Scron was posting on NiS about it yesterday, and we were clearly getting our info from different sources because his had VASTLY different amounts of deaths/confirmed outbreaks.

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:04 am
by Das Troll
It's the Chinese trying to squash information as it comes out. There's no way in hell with their censorship that they're going to let the real info out. Here's a few facts:

1. They claim the regular flu is worse
2. In response to the virus, they quarantined an entire city of millions of people
3. The incubation period is longer than what they claimed it was at first. Meaning people were already infected when they first admitted it.
4. They built 4 hospitals that can hold 1000 people each. They also claim that only 2000 or so are infected meaning they assume it's going to get much worse. Also if it's as benign as they claim, see 1, then why are they building 4 hospitals and quarantining an entire city?
5. This one is my favorite, they have a level 4? bio containment building in the chity of Wuhan. There was talk back before it was built that the city couldn't hold that level of containment and that stuff would likely get out, either from mistake or deliberate.

Those are just a few of the facts of things that you can use to judge information that comes out about the virus.

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:42 am
by Enigma
The only response I have to that, really, is that the reports I read state more like 6000 people, with about 110 dead. It's like 1.5% mortality rate.


Also, here's where the fear mongering really comes into play: They keep SPECIFICALLY saying coronavirus. SOME coronaviruses are deadly, such as SARS, or MERSA.

http://newtotse.com/index.php/wuhan_virus is the start of a rant on the topic

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:56 pm
by Das Troll
The confirmed infected cases are now up to 10000. Also Russia has closed their boarders to China.

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:38 am
by Enigma
That's nuts. That's almost .0000000001% of the population :O

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:37 pm
by Das Troll
15000 now. As long as it stays in China I'm fine. The real problem with these apocalypse scenarios is often not the thing that everyone is afraid of, it's when people freak out. Shit if you want to see evidence of that look at the hurricane Katrina footage. People live day by day in the concrete jungle with no food or water at all. Stores go barren as riots start and people really start going feral.

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:24 am
by Enigma
Another reason why I want basic things like a still, a portable mill, and some ham radios. The real key is to honestly say fuck looting and get right on self sustaining.

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:55 pm
by Das Troll
Over 20k infected and 800 dead.

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:01 am
by Enigma
Even rounding up to 40k people (the latest statistic has it around there) that's only 2% mortality rate.

I really feel like they're intentionally fudging the numbers to seem like it's a higher rate than it is, but now that gap is so far that it's more of a joke than anything.

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:47 pm
by Das Troll
Helladamnleet wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:01 am
Even rounding up to 40k people (the latest statistic has it around there) that's only 2% mortality rate.

I really feel like they're intentionally fudging the numbers to seem like it's a higher rate than it is, but now that gap is so far that it's more of a joke than anything.
I think it's far worse than that. China censors anything they don't like and this is a big fuck up for them. I think it could be upwards 100k or more of infected. The real problem with the Corona virus isn't it's low mortality rate, it's the high infection rate and its ability to possibly mutate into something wholly different. The flu kills far more per year sure, but we know how to deal with the flu. Right now all China knows how to do is quarantine and repress information.

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:30 am
by Enigma
The real problem with the CHINA virus (Corona is the TYPE of virus) is that people keep calling it the "Corona virus" and compare it to SARS and other far more deadly Coronas. The common cold is just as infectious if not more.


I don't necessarily disagree that China could be hiding SOME information, but I doubt they are 99,200 under the "infected" mark.

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:43 pm
by Das Troll
Think it's up to 60k now. I decided to go and stock up on non perishable food. It's not really the virus that is the most dangerous, it's the panicking people. You want to see how shitty it can get, take a look at katrina when the stores started to get looted. Also if nothing happens i have a pantry full of food and spices that don't go bad for months and months.

Re: Chinese diet and the corona virus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:52 pm
by Enigma
Fuck em. As long as my weed doesn't get fucked with we're gucci gang.