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Welcome to California, population fuck you

Post by Das Troll » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:19 pm



San Fran ladies and gents, where it's basically legal to steal anything as long as its under 950 dollars.

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Post by Kheron » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:13 pm

I mean, what are they gonna do? The wage-slaves aren't paid enough to put themselves in danger stopping shit like this, and cops have to be already present to do jack shit. Best the cops can do is arrive late and make everyone hate their life even more than before.

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Post by Helladamnleet » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:12 pm

Example of why it should be legal for store owners to have a gun.
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Post by Kheron » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:48 pm

You know, if a shopkeeper wants to blow a hole in their wall to scare shoplifters, that's kinda sociopathic but I dig it. It's a bit funny. But if someone gets shot stealing a snickers, that would seem a touch... overkill, ya know? Unless the robber is the one to escalate the confrontation to where self defense is necessary, obv.

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Post by Das Troll » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:11 am

Kheron wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:13 pm
I mean, what are they gonna do?
For starters make it illegal again to steal anything, even cheap shit, even shit that's a single penny. They're stealing stuff because they know they can get away with it scott free.

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Post by Helladamnleet » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:14 am

Kheron wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:48 pm
You know, if a shopkeeper wants to blow a hole in their wall to scare shoplifters, that's kinda sociopathic but I dig it. It's a bit funny. But if someone gets shot stealing a snickers, that would seem a touch... overkill, ya know? Unless the robber is the one to escalate the confrontation to where self defense is necessary, obv.
We're not talking about "just a snickers" though. Look at the video, he filled a big trash bag with shit and just rode right out the door.

Either way, no, I don't think it would be overkill. Even as someone who shoplifted thousands, if not tens of thousands, of dollars worth of shit I can grantee I never would have done it if I feared actual repercussions.

That's the problem with America too. I'm not saying go out shooting people, send everyone to death row, et cetera, but if there was actual consequence besides sitting in a heated/cooled building where someone else does your laundry and cooks all your meals I can absolutely promise that crime would drop.

TL/DR: There's no incentive NOT to commit crime because prison is too luxurious.
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Post by Kheron » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:17 am

Ah, didn't mean to say this one was just a snickers, sorry for lack of clarity.

In general tho I think the "actual consequences" are better off being things like, figuring out why the theft is occurring. Food for starving family? Hook em up with programs/guides/other resources (like food shelves) to help them meet ends.

Doing it for the thrill? Rehabilitate them.

Idk if death should be the answer

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Post by Das Troll » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:40 pm

Kheron wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:17 am

Idk if death should be the answer
Ahh I see what you're saying, the old biblical way. Cut their hands off. You might be onto something. :)

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Post by Helladamnleet » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:09 pm

Kheron wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:17 am
Ah, didn't mean to say this one was just a snickers, sorry for lack of clarity.

In general tho I think the "actual consequences" are better off being things like, figuring out why the theft is occurring. Food for starving family? Hook em up with programs/guides/other resources (like food shelves) to help them meet ends.

Doing it for the thrill? Rehabilitate them.

Idk if death should be the answer
Maybe death for simple shoplifting is extreme. I will agree to that.
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