Ayahuasca is illegal...

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Ayahuasca is illegal...

Post by Das Troll » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:44 am

But the makings for it isn't. Got 10 or so hours to spare? You too can make a potent psychedelic from items bought off of Amazon. Alone, they're legal, together they're illegal. What a wonderful, idiotic system we live in.

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Re: Ayahuasca is illegal...

Post by Helladamnleet » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:27 am

A lot of shit is that way though. Even most/all of the ingredients for meth are readily available, it's just the act of combining them.
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Re: Ayahuasca is illegal...

Post by CitizenCocaine » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:40 pm

Helladamnleet wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:27 am
A lot of shit is that way though. Even most/all of the ingredients for meth are readily available, it's just the act of combining them.
True, however unlike ayahuasca, methamphetamine is synthesized from simpler compounds, whereas DMT is only extracted from legally available plants.

I personally love pharmahuasca. You can buy mixed harmala alkaloids for relatively cheap off of Ebay. And DMT can be extracted from Mimosa Hostilis Rootbark for fairly cheap, and it's a good exercise in chemistry. I usually combine 150mg of freebase mixed harmalas, with my dose of freebase DMT. In my experience the dosing information is as so:

10-20mg of DMT is a low/threshold dose
20-30mg of DMT is a low dose
30-50mg of DMT is a moderate dose
50mg+ of DMT is a strong dose

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Re: Ayahuasca is illegal...

Post by Das Troll » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:42 am

My main gripe for making Ayahuasca is the boiling time. I've never seen a recipe where it doesn't take 10 hours to cook it all down.

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Re: Ayahuasca is illegal...

Post by Helladamnleet » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:17 am

CitizenCocaine wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:40 pm
Helladamnleet wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:27 am
A lot of shit is that way though. Even most/all of the ingredients for meth are readily available, it's just the act of combining them.
True, however unlike ayahuasca, methamphetamine is synthesized from simpler compounds, whereas DMT is only extracted from legally available plants.

I personally love pharmahuasca. You can buy mixed harmala alkaloids for relatively cheap off of Ebay. And DMT can be extracted from Mimosa Hostilis Rootbark for fairly cheap, and it's a good exercise in chemistry. I usually combine 150mg of freebase mixed harmalas, with my dose of freebase DMT. In my experience the dosing information is as so:

10-20mg of DMT is a low/threshold dose
20-30mg of DMT is a low dose
30-50mg of DMT is a moderate dose
50mg+ of DMT is a strong dose
Yeah, a buddy of mine ordered the bark and made some deems a couple years ago and it kind of turned me off of it. He got a fairly large amount off of it and spent like a week smoking deem and bitching about how sick he felt.
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Re: Ayahuasca is illegal...

Post by murderman143 » Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:29 am

methamphetamine can be extracted from a legal plant with a simp a to b extraction

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Re: Ayahuasca is illegal...

Post by Helladamnleet » Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:38 am

murderman143 wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:29 am
methamphetamine can be extracted from a legal plant with a simp a to b extraction
Not only that, but it's extracted from fairly common garden variety plants





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Re: Ayahuasca is illegal...

Post by CitizenCocaine » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:20 am

murderman143 wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:29 am
methamphetamine can be extracted from a legal plant with a simp a to b extraction
Not exactly. Ephedrine and pseudoephedrine can be extracted from Ephedra (plant), it still needs to be reduced to yield methamphetamine.

I'd like to add that the DEA watches Ephedra sales, so be weary aspiring meth cooks.

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Re: Ayahuasca is illegal...

Post by Helladamnleet » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:26 am

The DEA can eat a fucking dick. If I'm not hurting people to get these drugs they have no constitutional right to prosecute me.
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Re: Ayahuasca is illegal...

Post by Das Troll » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:41 pm

CitizenCocaine wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:20 am
murderman143 wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:29 am
methamphetamine can be extracted from a legal plant with a simp a to b extraction
Not exactly. Ephedrine and pseudoephedrine can be extracted from Ephedra (plant), it still needs to be reduced to yield methamphetamine.

I'd like to add that the DEA watches Ephedra sales, so be weary aspiring meth cooks.
Isn't ephedrine still legal in both Canada and Mexico?

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Re: Ayahuasca is illegal...

Post by CitizenCocaine » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:41 pm

Das Troll wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:41 pm
CitizenCocaine wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:20 am
murderman143 wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:29 am
methamphetamine can be extracted from a legal plant with a simp a to b extraction
Not exactly. Ephedrine and pseudoephedrine can be extracted from Ephedra (plant), it still needs to be reduced to yield methamphetamine.

I'd like to add that the DEA watches Ephedra sales, so be weary aspiring meth cooks.
Isn't ephedrine still legal in both Canada and Mexico?
I believe so. It isn't illegal here in the U.S. it is regulated, though. You can read about it's legality in both Canada and the U.S. on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedrine

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Re: Ayahuasca is illegal...

Post by Helladamnleet » Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:18 am

Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure it's not impossible to get your hands on it in the US, most people are just dumb and don't realize it's a good source.
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