Dexter, Death Penalty, Killing Criminals, etc.

[Martian Luger King]

damn nigga u comin at me wit that tsang tsung shit

[KikoSanchez]

I'm not quite sure if there is any coherent discussion going on, so I'll just throw this is to make things clear for those that don't watch Dexter.

He kills only people (well almost only, but I won't throw in a spoiler) that have already gone through the system, but slipped through and have continued on their path of killing/raping/child-molesting, etc. So it's not synonymous with the government's choice of prison-for-life or the death penalty. Instead it is free-for-life, unless caught again, or the death penalty. So really, from a utilitarian perspective, he is doing a much better thing than that what the death penalty does.

[Spiphel Rike]

Originally Posted by KikoSanchez

I'm not quite sure if there is any coherent discussion going on, so I'll just throw this is to make things clear for those that don't watch Dexter.

He kills only people (well almost only, but I won't throw in a spoiler) that have already gone through the system, but slipped through and have continued on their path of killing/raping/child-molesting, etc. So it's not synonymous with the government's choice of prison-for-life or the death penalty. Instead it is free-for-life, unless caught again, or the death penalty. So really, from a utilitarian perspective, he is doing a much better thing than that what the death penalty does.

It's better to let the bad guy offend again before you kill him?

[Martian Luger King]

Anyone who doesn't support the death penalty is a downright faggot and a victim susceptible to narcissists and psychopathic manipulators, who make up a majority of the criminal population I might add.

[Zay]

Originally Posted by Martian Luger King

Anyone who doesn't support the death penalty is a downright faggot and a victim susceptible to narcissists and psychopathic manipulators, who make up a majority of the criminal population I might add.

It does need a reform though. More hard evidence, like DNA, and less unreliable shit like eyewitness accounts. If you can make the death penalty accurate enough it will be possible to increase the number of criminals on death row.

[lostmyface]

dexter is a great show. i bought my mom season one on dvd for chanukah.

as for the death penalty. i am not in favor of it for 3 reasons. one, it does not stop crime. two, it does not prevent crime. three, i dont think the state should have any say in who can live an who can die.

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by KikoSanchez

I'm not quite sure if there is any coherent discussion going on

lol lol, I was just thinking that.

On topic:

If I am not mistaken, I believe OP is talking about how the State has a monopoly on the executing of murderers/felons.

Here's my two cents: I don't have a problem with the regular people doing the killing of criminals, provided that it's been established beyond reasonable doubt that they indeed committed crime. However, this (referring to the establishment of guilt) is currently done through the judiciary, which is a part of the State. And this is where confusion arises. Currently we can't separate the establishment of guilt from execution, which is why we leave in the hands of the government to do the killing of murderers. I would imagine that if it were ever possible for the common people to properly establish the guilt of felons/murderers etc, I would not have a problem with civilians doing the executing.

Originally Posted by Slave of the Beast

Guilty of a crime which would already warrant the death penalty, or guilty of a crime indicating that he may commit a future death penalty crime?

This isn't directed towards you per se, Slave, so please don't take it personally.

It is rude, cuntish, and useless to answer someone's question with another question. Not to mention it might not be easily understood/your point might not be readily apparent to the audience. Example. I read that sentence a few times and still couldn't figure out what you were trying to say.

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by Martian Luger King

Anyone who doesn't support the death penalty is a downright faggot and a victim susceptible to narcissists and psychopathic manipulators

There are people who oppose the death penalty for good reasons (this is not to say I am one of them). You might not agree with them but it doesn't necessarily mean they are "faggots susceptible to narcissists and psychopathic manipulators".

oh and you might want to ease up on your trolling, it could cause stress.