Palestinians

[Issue313]

I'm confused about this current middle east conflict.

If the Israelis have the means to kill the Palestinians, but the Palestinians don't have the means to kill the Israelis, doesn't that mean that the Palestinians have lost, and should surrender?

I don't see how anyone can support Hamas in its war, when they have already lost. The only thing stopping the Israelis from building malls and suburbs on the Gaza strip is some notion of human rights.

But anything you can do to a rat you can do to a human, and you can do a lot of things to a rat. In history human rights have only applied within civilisations, and when civilisations clash, human rights have ceased to apply. For instance I can't shoot my neighbour, much as I might love to, but when my country goes to war I am encouraged to shoot as many of the enemy as possible.

The Israeli/Palestinian conflict is not a clash of nation states, but a clash of civilisations. In this situation 100% of the population of each civilisation is a target, as they contribute to the maintenance of their civilisation, thereby becoming a means of continuing the war.

We have to decide which civilisation to support in this war. For me the choice is clear, I support the more western, technologically advanced, liberal and slightly secular Israeli state. The Palestinian state is backwards, poor and extremely religious. We each need to choose a side based on rationality, rather than based on pictures of dead children shown on the nightly news.

[Yggdrasil]

Nay, I do believe you are confusing the current Palestinian State with the current Palestinian Government. Hamas is radical, but they do not represent all of the Palestinians, and to say as much is a slap in the face to those poor misbegotten people.

[Zay]

You don't need to support any state, I sure don't. You are right that the israelis are culturally superior to the palestinians, but it's the state itself that created the problem in the first place. Zionists have done every unethical thing you can think of to secure that land. The bulk of israelis understand this, as they're the bastard children of criminal trespassers, but they have no choice but to rightfully defend the land they were born and raised in. The only thing that could stop all of this is the enlightenment of the muslim world, because it's not "palestine" that is perpetuating this shit. It's a proxy war between a superior culture and weaker culture that's receive just enough respect not to get the shit bombed out of it. THAT is the burden of the west's extra power and slightly more matured philosophical understanding.

[Issue313]

Originally Posted by Zay

It's a proxy war between a superior culture and weaker culture that's receive just enough respect not to get the shit bombed out of it.

This is true.

Everyone says humans have rights. Prove to me that humans have rights. Within our legal system, people have rights because it is expedient to grant them such rights. Why grant a bunch of people who want to destroy our culture rights?

[PastorSehmish]

Greetings heathens,

I'm confused about this current middle east conflict.

Well in a nutshell, Israel is right.

Glad I could enlighten you all.

God Bless,
Dr Pastor Emeritus Wayne Sehmish

[BSK]

you called down the thunder now reap the whirlwind ..

[Dread_Lord]

Bite your tongue Dr. Pastor kike puppet.

[ChickenOfDoom]

No. It doesn't work that way. Israel is a subsidized state. It was created by and is to this day supported by the international community. It owes everything to us. The thing stopping Israel from turning Gaza into a strip mall is their need for our support. If we refused to trade with them, they would be destroyed. And because most of the world considers 'some notion' of human rights to be important, we would not provide that support if they ignored it.

You give a bunch of people who want to destroy our culture rights, because the only part of our culture that even fucking matters is the part where individuals are more important than the whole. Killing or displacing a million people simply because they are in the way of the expansion of western civilization is a betrayal of that principle.