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Oh the Humanities! Philosophy, Cultural practices, Social norms, Historical Debate, War, and Sociology.

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Old 2008-05-19, 21:13
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Default Questions for Sun Tzu...

He rocks! His mighty Art of War, written 2500 years ago (or somewhat) is like timeless still. However times change, war has changed. Specially now, with terrorism and such we (the west) are struggling to keep the world save and not to spend to much human resources. I bet the genious could think up a way or two to break the modern deadlocks.

If I could bring him here right now, what would you ask him?

I know what I would;

(Seeing that he lived like 500 BC, I'd need to change my vocabulary somewhat.

1) If the enemy had a weapon that could destroy a large city in one mighty strike. This weapon could be wielded from more then 5000 li away and it comes from the sky. When it strikes it consumes entire cities in fire. What would one do against such an enemy?

2) If the enemy brings machines that can fly, that can rain fire and explosives from the skies and fly as fast as lighting, what could one do?
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Old 2008-05-20, 14:29
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Default Re: Questions for Sun Tzu...

First of all sun tzu was not just adept at battle tactics but also in the philosophy of warfare. He might give you the pointer "well get the fuck ot of the way" but in truth the people dropping the bomb and the reason they are dropping it would need to be affected. Sun tzu understood the way of war not the way to win one(well he could but thats not the point)....if that makes sense.
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Old 2008-05-20, 14:39
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Default Re: Questions for Sun Tzu...

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First of all sun tzu was not just adept at battle tactics but also in the philosophy of warfare. He might give you the pointer "well get the fuck ot of the way" but in truth the people dropping the bomb and the reason they are dropping it would need to be affected. Sun tzu understood the way of war not the way to win one(well he could but thats not the point)....if that makes sense.
I think though for my second question: "Bring it down with a blaze of arrows"
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Old 2008-05-20, 16:59
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Default Re: Questions for Sun Tzu...

~sigh~ The second one is irrelevant to the works of Tzu, because a weapon is not a strategy. However...

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1) If the enemy had a weapon that could destroy a large city in one mighty strike. This weapon could be wielded from more then 5000 li away and it comes from the sky. When it strikes it consumes entire cities in fire. What would one do against such an enemy?
Where one's enemy concentrates their force, one should disperse.

Where one's enemy's defense is unconcentrated, one should attack.

Surely, you read that one somewhere.
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Old 2008-05-20, 21:01
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~sigh~ The second one is irrelevant to the works of Tzu, because a weapon is not a strategy. However...



Where one's enemy concentrates their force, one should disperse.

Where one's enemy's defense is unconcentrated, one should attack.

Surely, you read that one somewhere.
Not true at all on you first remark. Airpower can be a strategical asset.

An no matter how you disperse your forces, he will just wipe out your cities. And if he happens to disperse his army and you attack, he will still wipe out your cities or the area where you just concentrated your army. Nuke equipped vs Non Nuke equipped is a difficult thing.
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Old 2008-05-21, 02:35
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Default Re: Questions for Sun Tzu...

The answer to question 1 would be: you could die.

The answer to question 2 would be: you could duck.
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Old 2008-05-21, 15:13
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Default Sun Tzu talked about politics too.

But is Art of War really the correct translation.

War for Europeans means armed conflict but War for the Chinese means all conflict.

How much of the so called War on Terror is the result of economic and culture conflict and going to the level of military conflict could have been avoided decades ago.

The US claims to be capitalist but can't make accounting mandatory in its own schools. Are Americans losers in their own economic WAR?

"All warfare is based on deception." - Sun Tzu

Are the American people deceived about the War on Terror.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...25797482336424

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...71467615437222

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...79267751276431

DT
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Old 2008-05-22, 01:50
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Default Re: Sun Tzu talked about politics too.

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How much of the so called War on Terror is the result of economic and culture conflict and going to the level of military conflict could have been avoided decades ago.
All/All

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The US claims to be capitalist but can't make accounting mandatory in its own schools. Are Americans losers in their own economic WAR?
Yea duh. Politicians just use words because they sound good and the idea behind them looks nice. But really they just seek the most cost efficient way that is still morally acceptable.

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"All warfare is based on deception." - Sun Tzu

Are the American people deceived about the War on Terror.
No shit!
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Old 2008-05-28, 13:38
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The US claims to be capitalist but can't make accounting mandatory in its own schools.
8th amendment.
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Old 2008-05-28, 22:12
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8th amendment.
Cruel and unusual punishment.

That's cute. LOL

DT
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