United Nations

[launchpad]

I don't know if this should be in here or in Politics - move it if necessary.

Anyway, I was just thinking about the whole situation in Zimbabwe and I got to pondering the role of the U.N. It seems that even when a situation arises that would seem to be fit for some type of action on the U.N's part - such as ensuring that state sponsored violence against the rural populations in Zimbabwe as well as in Harare comes to an end...basically peacekeeping. This force could have been mainly composed of African troops so that it would be more of a regional balance as opposed to people seeing it as whites meddling in their affairs.

They didn't do this. Instead, while people were being beaten to death in the streets the U.N. struggled to get a motion passed condemning the actions of Mugabe - but even failed to do this due to the power of veto from nations like Russia and China. Instead the U.N. put out a weakly worded yelp of disapproval over the entire situation and left it at that. Zimbabwe is now again faced with another few years of rule by a tyrannical despot and you can be sure that the MDC supporters will be persecuted for the forseeable future.

My question: Do you think that the failures of the U.N. in the past have contributed to their gutlessness today?

Somalia and Rwanda left a bad taste in many mouths over sending U.N. personnel in on the ground level. Everyone says that we must be vigilant to never allow another Rwanda or to be asleep at the switch, but from what I've seen recently it doesn't seem like the international community can do very much at all.

What do you guys think can be done to strengthen the U.N.? Do you think it's possible? What about the use of international personnel being involved in the affairs of sovereign nations? Will this ever work?

[Chimro]

Strengthening the UN? They're a useless and evil organization run by corrupt evil people.

They willingly sit by and do nothing so they can get people to believe they need more money or power. Regardless, it's better to have them do nothing because their "peace keepers" rape & pillage wherever they go. The Zimbabweans got themselves into this problem and they'll get themselves out just fine without any "help" from the United Nations.

[DarkOmaga]

Originally Posted by Chimro

Strengthening the UN? They're a useless and evil organization run by corrupt evil people.

That's the most truthful thing I have ever read.

We need a revolution.

[SAS25]

Yeah the United Nations is the beginning of a one world government. A new world order of the future. Things like this are very very dangerous. It is the start of the slippery slope of 1984 esque facism and totalitarianism. One way to think, one way to look, and those undesireables who think outside the narrow plastic box will be re-educated or sent to the camps. All the signs are there.

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-...yDay_1934c.jpg

[_TS_]

This isn't really an issue of the United Nations, it is an issue of economics:

A few people get road-bombed in the Middle East and everyone in the world cares...

...A few million tribesmen in Darfur die and NO ONE cares...

common theme?

The Middle East has oil...Darfur has shit.

The world only intervenes when it begins to hit them in the wallet.

_TS_

[Sentinel owl]

Originally Posted by _TS_

This isn't really an issue of the United Nations, it is an issue of economics:

A few people get road-bombed in the Middle East and everyone in the world cares...

...A few million tribesmen in Darfur die and NO ONE cares...

common theme?

The Middle East has oil...Darfur has shit.

The world only intervenes when it begins to hit them in the wallet.

_TS_

no, the people in the middle east are FROM the western world. We wouldn't give a shit if it was middle easterners blowing up middle easterners. (it happens all the time)

[Rocko]

Pfft, nobody gives a shit about Africa. I think everybody has learned the futility of trying to interfere with their way of doing things. Simply put, they're too stupid, backwards, and tribal for democracy to ever work. The only Africans we care about are the ones sitting on resources we can use.

[_TS_]

Originally Posted by Sentinel owl

no, the people in the middle east are FROM the western world. We wouldn't give a shit if it was middle easterners blowing up middle easterners. (it happens all the time)

What the fuck are you talking about? Israel?

Nobody really gives a fuck about them...

It's all about oil.

[Revvy]

Originally Posted by Rocko

Pfft, nobody gives a shit about Africa. I think everybody has learned the futility of trying to interfere with their way of doing things. Simply put, they're too stupid, backwards, and tribal for democracy to ever work. The only Africans we care about are the ones sitting on resources we can use.

You should study the situation in Africa a little more, you'll realise that your current viewpoint is smalled minded, ignorant, racist bullshit.

[Beka]

Originally Posted by Revvy

You should study the situation in Africa a little more, you'll realise that your current viewpoint is smalled minded, ignorant, racist bullshit.

Yes the correction here will be "every piece of the world has or may have a valuable resource for the future. So we must ensure a aligned leadership in every fucking country of the world"