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Old 2008-07-22, 15:28
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Default Why the Nazi lost and will always lose

1. Hitler acted as a god
2. Nazis claimed racial superiority based on God's fiat
3. Do not take yourself, your prideful lust, seriously
4. The Nazis failed to uphold the law and tradition of their ancestors
5. They taught everything bad must be extinguished (they are Persians)
6. The Nazi wanted to break away from their long standing tradition of living with the Jews and other minorities in peace
7. The Nazi took land without warrant
8. The came with a message of peace and altruism toward humanity but brought death and plague upon the world
9 and 10. They coveted the rich lands of southern Russia, the Middle East and the trade outpost that the UK enjoyed

These are the ten commandments against tyranny the Hun broke. Because of this sin he enjoyed a mighty defeat.

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Old 2008-07-22, 16:01
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Default Re: Why the Nazi lost and will always lose

or its due the fact that Hitler didn't listen to his best generals....
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Old 2008-07-22, 16:08
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Default Re: Why the Nazi lost and will always lose

1.He lost because it would have been impossible for the nazi army to successfully invade and occupy the Soviet Union.

2.He might have won also if he didn't delay the ME 262's(jet fighter) development. It was designed to be a fighter, and would have been in full development by the 1944. Hitler delayed the research a full year by demanding that it should be a bomber.

3.Also, if Hitler continued to bomb RAF bases instead of switching to bombing english cities, the RAF would have been completely destroyed allowing for an invasion of England.

Hitler made a lot of mistakes.


If Hitler completed number 3, then his western front would have been exceptionally smaller(Iceland would have to be the base instead of England). If Hitler didn't follow through with 1, he would have had a significantly larger amount of troops at his disposal for more realistic tasks. If Hitler didn't delay the ME262, Germany would have been able to put up a more fierce fight against the advancing allies(The allies relied heavily on air power).

I don't even think he needed to use the jews as a scapegoat. The Allies would have been enough. Think of all the people he put in the camps, and imagine if they were instead used in the military or on the home front. This would have been devastating.

Hitler could also have made his last stand at the Siegfried Line instead of the battle of the Bulge, in which he would have halted the allied advance. But the soviets would still have been all over him.
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Old 2008-07-22, 16:13
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Quite simply: they lost because Hitler was a total dumbass.
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Old 2008-07-23, 06:03
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Uh, no.

What's been said before plus:


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5. They taught everything made must be extinguished (they are Persians)
6. The Nazi wanted to break away from their long standing tradition of living with the Jews and other minorities in peace
I don't know where the fuck number 5 comes from, because the Nazis taught in preserving the Aryan race and making Germany glorius.

To number 6, the reason Hitler and his Nazi group picked the Jews is because there wasn't a long standing tradition of peace. The Jews were a minority before this and that's why the Nazis could scapegoat them. This list is fucking bullshit.
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Old 2008-07-23, 08:24
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2. Nazis claimed racial superiority based on God's fiat
Source please.
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Old 2008-07-23, 13:53
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Source please.
You really need to ask for a source?

http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~niederl/kz/gott_mit_uns.jpg
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Old 2008-07-23, 14:22
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You really need to ask for a source?
Ignore him. He's a troll who should have been banned a long time ago.
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Old 2008-07-23, 15:34
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To number 6, the reason Hitler and his Nazi group picked the Jews is because there wasn't a long standing tradition of peace. The Jews were a minority before this and that's why the Nazis could scapegoat them. This list is fucking bullshit.
Not only this, but the jews were hated among common society for a long time. That is why the german citizenry took so easily to it.
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Old 2008-07-23, 16:14
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Uh, no.

What's been said before plus:




I don't know where the fuck number 5 comes from, because the Nazis taught in preserving the Aryan race and making Germany glorius.

To number 6, the reason Hitler and his Nazi group picked the Jews is because there wasn't a long standing tradition of peace. The Jews were a minority before this and that's why the Nazis could scapegoat them. This list is fucking bullshit.

Lol, thanks for spotting my mistake. I had meant to say "bad" in place of "made".

I do believe it is true the Jews have not been on good standing with much of Europe especially Martine Luther, but certainly there had never been any such persecution of Jews but perhaps exiling the Jews was common, Spinoza was a Jew!

But as for #6, the Nazis had quite a bit of lust for a pure race rather than a peaceful society.

I used the Nazid as a convenient example. These ten commandments (Catholic) apply to all tyrrants. The Persians, Nebudcanezer, Stalin could all be applied in the same situation.

A tyrrant is simply a ruler who does not abide by the law and this case the law which is most common (I decided to use the ten commandments as a general source).
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