Stormfront

[DerDrache]

I decided to check out the Stormfront forum today. I had heard it mentioned a few times, and was curious what all the fuss was about. Boy, that place is a riot. My first impression was that it was amazing just how many legitimately delusional people were there. It seemed like a case of mass hysteria or something.

Then I came across this thread: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/show...te-120656.html

I was seriously relieved to find that there were indeed a few intelligent people in the community. Some renounce the idea of "all-around white superiority", some are quite knowledgeable about biology and acknowledge that racial mixing is generally good for genetic health. Some have no racial superiority ideas and understand the impact of culture, environment, and chance on human advancement.

So, like I said, I was pleased to see that not everyone there was insane or borderline retarded, but the vast majority are. The Movie Reviews section is hilarious and sad at the same time...people analyzing the significance of the movie "WALL-E" having a black baby in a scene, or some psycho complaining about "the dirty negro superhero and dirty Jew Jason Bateman" in Hancock. I think that entire community is worthy of discussion, and I couldn't find any other threads about it. Anyone want to share their thoughts on it/its posters?

[ChickenOfDoom]

There are a lot of people with a very low quality/accountability threshold for the ideas they choose to accept. At the same time, I have a hard time believing a large proportion of people in this country share those particular ideas (that the causes of racial behavioral trends are almost entirely biological). There's too much cultural stigma associated with them.

[LuKaZz420]

These people don't realize that you can't isolate yourself, it never worked in the past and it can never work in the future, I especially don't like their obsession with racial preservation, it's idiotic the way they refer to people who date members of other ethnicities as "race traitors".

Most of today's ethnic groups are the result of racial mixing, it's really stupid to try and preserve something that does not exist, I also don't agree with their convinction that if races are kept separated all problems that affect today's society will disappear, their idea of a white utopia is laughable at best.

[only black man in vermont]

Insanity:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/show...pe-518077.html

[Benito Faggluey]

They are lunatics.

Robots are the superiors. If white people are actually superior it is by so little it is not worth bitching about.

[kevinwatkins]

wow, you people aren't very tolerant of other peoples beliefs

Race mixing, it's a step up for the black guy I guess, but for both parties...no. A mixed child, will have an IQ higher than a black person, but not a white person. Please show the thread where someone at stormfront said that, and that site loses the little credibility that it had with me.

Supremacy will be judged by who survives, not who is responsible for civilization. so it's yet to be decided who is supreme. White power is about keeping the beautiful traits of white people alive, and smashing anyone who is against it. I dont care for stormfront, because they are more into bitching about how "the jews aren't fair" than actually committing violence like they should be doing

Show me the thread where someone said miscegenation was ok though.

[DerDrache]

Originally Posted by kevinwatkins

wow, you people aren't very tolerant of other peoples beliefs

Race mixing, it's a step up for the black guy I guess, but for both parties...no. A mixed child, will have an IQ higher than a black person, but not a white person. Please show the thread where someone at stormfront said that, and that site loses the little credibility that it had with me.

Supremacy will be judged by who survives, not who is responsible for civilization. so it's yet to be decided who is supreme. White power is about keeping the beautiful traits of white people alive, and smashing anyone who is against it. I dont care for stormfront, because they are more into bitching about how "the jews aren't fair" than actually committing violence like they should be doing

Show me the thread where someone said miscegenation was ok though.

Why on Earth should we be "tolerant" of a belief that's absolutely delusional, and often directly results in hate and violence?

Saying idiotic, completely false things like "a mixed child has a higher IQ than a black person, but not a white person" is the exact reason why Stormfront and white nationalists aren't tolerated.

[kevinwatkins]

Originally Posted by DerDrache

Why on Earth should we be "tolerant" of a belief that's absolutely delusional, and often directly results in hate and violence?

Saying idiotic, completely false things like "a mixed child has a higher IQ than a black person, but not a white person" is the exact reason why Stormfront and white nationalists aren't tolerated.

There was a world IQ map by country that was done that I saw not long ago, and the entire continent of Africa was the dumbest one, Asia, and countries like Iceland were the highest. The US was about the same as South america.

Why be tolerant? Because that is your beef with them. All the anti-white people complain about "intolerance". So ok, we're both intolerant of each others beliefs, what can we do? Fight about it, and see who lives. Nature at work.

[DerDrache]

Originally Posted by kevinwatkins

There was a world IQ map by country that was done that I saw not long ago, and the entire continent of Africa was the dumbest one, Asia, and countries like Iceland were the highest. The US was about the same as South america.

1) IQ is not a true measure of "intelligence". Although there often is a correlation between IQ scores and what we percieve to be "intelligence, it's actually a projection of how people will perform in a particular social or educational environment. The actual cognitive abilities encompassed by the word "intelligence" can't possibly be summarized by a standard IQ test, and often IQ tests measure education (cultural or otherwise) rather than pure cognitive abilities and development.

2) IQ is not a set number that people are born with. It's predominantly a function of environment, and it (as well as cognitive development as a whole) can be influenced by many things, including how nurturing one's parents are, how conducive the child's environment is to learning, and what cultural values they are raised with. A study was done where a young child was given a motor task and was aided by his or her mother. Some of the mothers simply showed the child how to do the task, while others offered the child suggestions and clues. When the children were later IQ tested, those that were simply given the solution to the task consistently scored lower than those who were given suggestions and hints. That study alone effectively disproves any notion of naturally determined IQ.

So, while it may very well be possible that blacks on average have a lower IQ, and perhaps even a lower intelligence(again, "intelligence" is the quality of their collective cognitive abilities), there's absolutely no evidence that it is genetic. On the contrary, there is plenty of evidence that it is cultural and environmental.

By the way, you apparently don't even understand what the "genetically stupider" idea suggests. It doesn't mean that any black person is always innately dumber than any white person. It means that the population has a lower average intelligence, due to genetics. Trying to argue the former is completely disproven when you look at ANY black or mixed people that scores higher on cognitive tests than a white person. Both arguments are scientifically baseless, but you should at least argue something that hasn't already been clearly disproven.

[Benito Faggluey]

I do not believe there is any evolutionary or genetic superiority with Blacks VS Whites.

It could be said that with the civilization of white-people there people must have been smarter. Not true. Perhaps their leaders were, but the average person led a life of general-labor and there was no reason to breed in intelligence.

There simply was not enough time for any kind of superiority to develop.

I hate the "Gangsta" culture, and believe it to be among the stupidest and degenerate shit around. I really hope an Obama Victory may inspire many blacks to give up that bullshit.