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| Oh the Humanities! Philosophy, Cultural practices, Social norms, Historical Debate, War, and Sociology. |

2008-08-25, 21:11
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Find me motherfucker
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Would perfection get boring?
How would we become impressed afterwards?
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2008-08-26, 02:17
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Re: Would perfection get boring?
This is what I was thinking about while at the gym today. Yes I believe part of being human is to always have something to worry about. Financial issues, health issues, etc. Being perfect would like you say, evantually get boring. You would miss the state of not having a task or objective to complete.
Case in point, Christian fundamentalists and liberal PC people. Most Christian fundamentalists seem to live in the spectacle view of a perfect life which is a beautiful marriage, obedient kids and a nice home in suburbia. So how do they spend there time? They go after anti-god people like Marilyn Manson. Are they really offended by these people? I have a hard time believing the words of Manson are causing a ruckus in their beautiful suburban home and almost perfect lifestyle. They are at the state of perfection yet are still bored.
Take a look at people who tell you to be PC. These ones can fuck off to satans anus. Ever notice how people who tell you to be PC mentions things like "don't say faggot, don't call him black hes african american" are neither gay nor black? People who tell you to be PC are full of shit people who feel oppressed so they ride the coats of another oppressed persons cause. Most gay people will not be offended if you call them a faggot in a joking a way or insulting way. Nor will black people if you refer to them as black. Yet for some reason people who are neither gay nor black will take the cause of another like their fucking joan of ark.
These people truly are bored
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2008-08-26, 03:44
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Re: Would perfection get boring?
complete perfection is unachievable and rightfully so.
people always need something to shoot for and the potential for more
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2008-08-27, 04:37
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Re: Would perfection get boring?
I don't know what you mean by 'perfect'. What do you mean by us 'being perfect'?
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2008-08-27, 05:09
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Re: Would perfection get boring?
So far on earth, not one person has achieved perfection in any way, shape, or form. Our idea of perfection evolves around one word, "flawless." This idea is sort of hard to grasp at first, but because we are human, we are flawed.
There is no achieving perfection because we cannot change what we are. We have formulated ideas on how to achieve this so called state-of-being, but essentially, any pursuance towards any idea of perfection ends up becoming who we are.
There is no room in the idea of perfection for mistakes, yet we allow mistakes to exist as a part of the weight we carry as human beings. Mistakes are natural, there is no way of changing that so we work through them, building experience upon experience.
Perfection is such a state where the term "boring" is not even applicable. I think that perfection is a useless and provoking term that causes us to desire things beyond our control. It is a false hope.
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2008-08-27, 23:32
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Re: Would perfection get boring?
Quote:
Originally Posted by KikoSanchez
I don't know what you mean by 'perfect'. What do you mean by us 'being perfect'?
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This. Not very clear what it means. The closest thing I can think of is a state where your brain is flooded with the highest percievable concentrations of all chemicals controlling positive emotion.
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2008-08-28, 00:57
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Re: Would perfection get boring?
No.
However, I see what your getting at. By definition perfection can't be boring because than it wouldn't really be perfection.
If something is perfect it requires no change, pure awesomeness (so to speak) that will never run out of "awe"...Otherwise that would imply it has a flaw (That flaw being only limited beauty/inspiration)...
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2008-08-28, 08:41
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Re: Would perfection get boring?
What I want to express -- the definition of perfection -- is something so simple that everyone grasps it, until they attempt to reflect upon it, and then it slips between their fingers. No doubt, the same will happen to me in this post. But hopefully, I will hold on to something, and, more importantly, this something will be relevant to the question at hand while also addressing all the talk of the supposed impossibility of achieving perfection.
Perfection has three preconditions. First, there is the mark, the criterion. Second, there is the object under measurement. Third, there is the relation between the mark and the object. Now, put quite simply, perfection is the quality that in inheres in the object when its relation to the mark is in no way that of a mismatch.
Understood this way, I don’t think it really makes sense to ask if perfection itself would ever get boring. After all, it will always be nothing but an abstract idea a diverse multiplicity of perfections can be subsumed under. Asking whether any of these perfections can get boring, however, is a different question, and I think the answer is dependent on the perfection under consideration.
Now, the whole reason people find it challenging to define perfection and yet give a univocal “no” to the question of whether it can be boring is because they automatically assume we are talking about a particular perfection, namely that of some God-like human state. And what is more, their picture of this state is often some unexamined hedonistic picture that contains an experience of pure eternal pleasure. This often leads to talk of the impossibility of achieving perfection, but it ignores an infinite set of contexts in which the mark of perfection is both less precise and very possible of being achieved by the object; for example, a perfect score in a quiz or board game.
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2008-09-01, 07:45
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Re: Would perfection get boring?
No we wouldn't. By definition if everything is perfect it cant get any better.
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2008-09-01, 16:08
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Re: Would perfection get boring?
I don't think it is possible for it to be. However, taking a line out of Fight Club, "A moment was the most you could ever expect from perfection." I think that it could only last for a short time. Because it causes a paradox in that the state one might accept as perfection would get old and would therefore be less perfect. To continue to be as good it would have to get better and would therefore not have been perfect in the first place.
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