Who says it is a mental "disorder"

[ibetyouvotenexttimehippy]

Most mental disorders are chemical imbalances, i'm a little baked right now but I don't think my spelling should be too bad.

So who is to say that is abnormal, it occured naturaly and shit. I'm not talking about seeing things, just like ADD. Why aren't they just personality traits?

- ♫.i.b.y.v.n.t.h.♫

[ChickenOfDoom]

Because they cause people to kill their neighbor with a hammer because they thought they were an alien, or do other, possibly less severe things that are still disruptive to society such as walking around and talking fast when they're supposed to be sitting still listening to boring nonsense. Basically, a mental disorder is when you persistently act in a way that confuses and disturbs others. It's abnormal because they don't want people to act that way and take steps to prevent them from acting that way in front of others.

Ex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkbIEUVSAX4

[dagnabitt]

The "disorder" is largely defined in terms of symptoms as they result to pain, discomfort, and dysfunctionality.

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by dagnabitt

The "disorder" is largely defined in terms of symptoms as they result to pain, discomfort, and dysfunctionality.

result to pain?

no offense but is English your first language?

[dagnabitt]

I have been doing weird dyslexic shit like that for a while now. My brain tends to mash synonyms together, so that when I speak I end up saying some made up word that is a combination of two words my brain wants to use at the same time. Like I''ll say "That movie was...(and I'll want to say awesome or cool, but it will come out) causome". I seriously think I've scrambled a circuit somewhere so please just disregard.

The above post was intended to read either "result in" or "relate to". See what I mean?

However, appropriately enough, the degree to which such a thing causes me pain and discomfort is the same degree to which it can be considered a disorder.

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by dagnabitt

I have been doing weird dyslexic shit like that for a while now. My brain tends to mash synonyms together, so that when I speak I end up saying some made up word that is a combination of two words my brain wants to use at the same time. Like I''ll say "That movie was...(and I'll want to say awesome or cool, but it will come out) causome". I seriously think I've scrambled a circuit somewhere so please just disregard.

The above post was intended to read either "result in" or "relate to". See what I mean?

haha I was just playing with ya buddy no need to explain yourself to me

[Star Wars Fan]

Originally Posted by ChickenOfDoom

or do other, possibly less severe things that are still disruptive to society such as walking around and talking fast when they're supposed to be sitting still listening to boring nonsense.

or shit as mundane as using worlds that do not fit peoples pre-conceived connotations, not having a right 'posture' or 'gait'; not walking in a 'correct' way and having body language that is 'odd' to the majority of the population.

EDIT: and being obsessed over things that other people don't care about and literally thinkign differently.

[Star Wars Fan]

Originally Posted by dagnabitt

The "disorder" is largely defined in terms of symptoms as they result to pain, discomfort, and dysfunctionality.

....from the perspective of those doing the measurements

[Q]

There is a difference between personality and neurology.
I disagree with the concept of a personality "disorder", because personality is developed by sensory experience and has no physical manifestation.

I agree with the idea of one's neurology being disordered however, because the cell function of the victim is impaired (a disorder), whereas the change in personality that results is merely incidental.

So people who have ADHD/ADD, Autism spectrum disorders or a change in personality after brain trauma etc. are disordered.

Whereas people who are narcissistic, histrionic, borderline etc. are not disordered, because they merely have an extreme form of a type of personality and their brain chemistry is not the main factor that has shaped this.

[dagnabitt]

Originally Posted by Star Wars Fan

....from the perspective of those doing the measurements

Inevitably to some degree. However the ethics of such things have evolved greatly over the years. Essentially the "disorder" aspect of mental "illness" is defined with reference to the persons inability to live a happy, independent life in their present environment. If you want to make the argument that society itself is arbitrary with regards to its norms and expectations, I would somewhat agree. However, "disorders" are currently defined relative to this context (not in absolute terms). Of note, treatments for most mental illness has taken on a far more social approach than in even recent decades - and of course these treatments are doing wonders for people living with mental health issues simply by lessening some of the pressure society imposes on them.

Keep in mind that individuals not burdened by their conditions are not likely to seek treatment, and hence not be diagnosed in the first place. People that can manage their conditions on their own, or are not discomforted by them are probably more likely to simply be considered eccentric or odd than have some specific classification.