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Old 2008-09-12, 04:05
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if you were to live forever, through anything, assuming time is constant and forever; you would eventually have to face a decision on performing 1 of 2 actions. because you live forever, you would do everything there was to do, no matter how long it takes you to do it, multiple upon multiples of times.

your two choices:

1. destroy yourself somehow so you cannot live forever. (assuming you can destroy yourself somehow or something.)

2. destroy everything, thus ending the existence you can live in, since everything dies if it cannot exist anywhere.
(assuming you can somehow accomplish this.)

which would you choose?
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Old 2008-09-12, 04:12
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3. Do everything over.
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Old 2008-09-12, 05:03
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Old 2008-09-13, 20:05
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if you were to live forever, through anything, assuming time is constant and forever; you would eventually have to face a decision on performing 1 of 2 actions. because you live forever, you would do everything there was to do, no matter how long it takes you to do it, multiple upon multiples of times.

your two choices:

1. destroy yourself somehow so you cannot live forever. (assuming you can destroy yourself somehow or something.)

2. destroy everything, thus ending the existence you can live in, since everything dies if it cannot exist anywhere.
(assuming you can somehow accomplish this.)

which would you choose?
Your proposition makes no sense...

If time and being are infinite than they cannot, not exist.




And the fact that if time is infinite than there is an infinite amount of things to do.
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Old 2008-09-13, 21:38
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And the fact that if time is infinite than there is an infinite amount of things to do.
If the amount of matter in the Universe remains constant and infinitely stable, wouldn't there theoretically be a limited number of permutations in which that matter could interact with itself?
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Old 2008-09-13, 23:45
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If the amount of matter in the Universe remains constant and infinitely stable, wouldn't there theoretically be a limited number of permutations in which that matter could interact with itself?


Possibly. But explain your logic I'm not quite seeing it.
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Old 2008-09-14, 03:21
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Your proposition makes no sense...

If time and being are infinite than they cannot, not exist.




And the fact that if time is infinite than there is an infinite amount of things to do.
of course it makes no sense if you don't ASSUME that you can make them not exist. that's why i said you have to assume that you are able to.
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Old 2008-09-14, 06:00
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of course it makes no sense if you don't ASSUME that you can make them not exist. that's why i said you have to assume that you are able to.
Sorry I didn't deviate from logical reality............
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Old 2008-09-14, 16:25
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Sorry I didn't deviate from logical reality............
Well aren't you fun


OP, please explain this situation more. How do you survive forever? What happens when the world blows up? Is your body invulnerable?

Also bear in mind that your activities must be limited to things you can do whilst staying alive. Burning to death, starving to death, all of the almost infinite number of ways to die are impossible for you. So that takes the total number of things you can do from nearly infinite to... well, still nearly infinite, but still nearly infinitely less.
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Old 2008-09-14, 16:59
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Well aren't you fun


OP, please explain this situation more. How do you survive forever? What happens when the world blows up? Is your body invulnerable?

Also bear in mind that your activities must be limited to things you can do whilst staying alive. Burning to death, starving to death, all of the almost infinite number of ways to die are impossible for you. So that takes the total number of things you can do from nearly infinite to... well, still nearly infinite, but still nearly infinitely less.
don't worry about how it is you seem to live forever, just assume that you do. if the world blew up, you'd still be alive, floating in space probably.

also, in the limited activities, it would only be limited in the fact that you wouldn't die after having done them. (i.e. you light yourself on fire, but that's all that happens.)

to make things simple, lets say there is 2 ways you can die, and you can perform them somehow, when you wish to do them (realizing that time for you would be infinite). 1 would be to destroy everything making nothing, including you, able to live. the other would be destroying yourself.

the whole point here is that you have unlimited time. eventually you will end up doing all there is to do, unless you decided to perform one of the actions above before you managed to do everything (which would be foolish in my opinion, and i doubt anyone would actually do that). the fact that you might not be physically or mentally ABLE to do everything isn't really that big of a deal. you have unlimited time: chances are that situations would come together to allow you to do what you wanted, no matter how long time took since you live eternally.
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