What came first?

mythbuster13 · #1 2008-09-17, 04:09

Man or God?

Spam Box · #2 2008-09-17, 05:14

Any god which we can comprehend is simply an invention of man, so if you're talking about the greek, norse, abramic, etc gods then I'd have to say man came first, but if you believe as I do in that a "creator" of sorts does exists then I'd have to go with God. All depends on your beliefs I suppose, not that it matters seeing as we're all wrong.

No sketch · #3 2008-09-17, 05:16

yeah, sorry I had to re-post.

What I meant to say was,

Can both truly exist, or is one simply an invention of the other?

Spam Box · #4 2008-09-17, 05:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by No sketch

yeah, sorry I had to re-post.

What I meant to say was,

Can both truly exist, or is one simply an invention of the other?

Next time you see god, why don't you ask him?

Holy Martyr · #5 2008-09-17, 09:46

Would you have known of God unless you were taught of God?
No. Therefore man came first.

JesuitArtiste · #6 2008-09-17, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holy Martyr

Would you have known of God unless you were taught of God?
No. Therefore man came first.

Can you show me that unless you're taught about God you cannot know him?

Obbe · #7 2008-09-17, 14:16

If we were to reply man, then we still have the question of where man/life/existence came from.

If we were to reply God, then we still have the question where this God came from.

Unless God were meant to mean everything, the infinite, and that there is no "before" or "after" God.

For what reasons could both not exist? It is possible for a man to imagine a variety of theories concerning God while at the same time himself being a creation of God.

Personally I think its a bit of a two-way street. I believe that while the finite would logically come from within the infinite, the infinite also comes from within the finite: how big is an inch? How long is a second? Does one drop of water plus one drop of water equal two drops, or just one? How large is a "drop"?

My mind is like an open field to be explored, an endless forest of ideas and positions. My mind can understand math, and geometrical concepts such as a "point" or a "perfect circle" or a "straight line in the first dimension", all of which appear to exist only in our heads and not in nature. How does such an infinite thing flow from finite matter?