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| Oh the Humanities! Philosophy, Cultural practices, Social norms, Historical Debate, War, and Sociology. |

2008-09-24, 05:44
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Can Human Nature Be Subjective??
Is there any possibility (not through extreme skepticism) that human nature could be entirely relative the observer. For instance, if I want to be happy and not be lonely on my own in complete isolation could I conceivably do so?
I don't mean appear to be happy and develop some psychosis as a result of my isolation but rather true happiness, human contentedness so to speak.
So I guess what I'm really asking is whether or not its possible to completely change your values and be content with them? Can I overcome this desire of having other people in my life? I wouldn't mind doing this but I fear it might lead to some schizoid disorder and I would like to prevent that...
Sartre seems to think so and I just feel like he's denying human nature, is this possible?
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2008-09-26, 22:08
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Re: Can Human Nature Be Subjective??
So you're a lonely loser inbred reject, who justifies his lonelyness saying that he likes being alone?
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2008-09-27, 03:59
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Re: Can Human Nature Be Subjective??
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Originally Posted by mythbuster13
So you're a lonely loser inbred reject, who justifies his lonelyness saying that he likes being alone?
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HAHA I WAS!
But, I'm not anymore...Realized it was some problem I was having with my Dad, weird...Whatever. Point is that I consolidated myself with him and now I realized how stupid that idea it was...But I feel fantastic now and this thread can be closed.
If you want to know what im talking about...long story short, i was unhappy, took lsd, broke my life down and figured out it was because my relationship with dad, it happened today was parents weekend, my dad came up and we made amends...life is great when you figure out problems. You can insult me all you want but i honestly don't give a fuck because im happy and its all that matters. how you see the world and others is how you see yourself...
~peace
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2008-09-27, 05:57
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Re: Can Human Nature Be Subjective??
Neat.
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2008-09-27, 06:10
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Re: Can Human Nature Be Subjective??
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Originally Posted by MR.Kitty55
Is there any possibility (not through extreme skepticism) that human nature could be entirely relative the observer. For instance, if I want to be happy and not be lonely on my own in complete isolation could I conceivably do so?
I don't mean appear to be happy and develop some psychosis as a result of my isolation but rather true happiness, human contentedness so to speak.
So I guess what I'm really asking is whether or not its possible to completely change your values and be content with them? Can I overcome this desire of having other people in my life? I wouldn't mind doing this but I fear it might lead to some schizoid disorder and I would like to prevent that...
Sartre seems to think so and I just feel like he's denying human nature, is this possible?
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Sartre would moreso say that human nature does not exist at all, or that it is simply something which we create through our actions (which isn't nature). I would not say human nature can be subjective. It is a descriptive statement on how humans generally act, not just on how you act. You being able to act outside of how your supposed to, ie how "human nature" would say you would act simply gives credence to the theory that there is no human nature.
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2008-09-27, 19:53
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Re: Can Human Nature Be Subjective??
No, I'm pretty sure human nature is objective. It is relativist in the sense that human nature only applies to humans (duh) but that's pretty much the extent of the subjectivist aspects of human nature.
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2008-09-28, 06:55
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Re: Can Human Nature Be Subjective??
I believe human nature is subjective. Think free will. Our basic needs are objective. If that makes any sense.
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2008-09-28, 08:20
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Re: Can Human Nature Be Subjective??
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Originally Posted by Encrypted Soldier
No, I'm pretty sure human nature is objective. It is relativist in the sense that human nature only applies to humans (duh) but that's pretty much the extent of the subjectivist aspects of human nature.
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Then what is it?
EDIT: Hey Drache, I spelled "you're" wrong on purpose. 
Last edited by nshanin; 2008-10-03 at 19:30.
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2008-09-28, 12:38
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Re: Can Human Nature Be Subjective??
You've been struggling with the definition of 'subjective' for over 12 months now....
'Human Nature' is just an abstract term used to explain behavioral patterns generally shared by humans. ie. an objective concept.
All definitive terms are objectives.
As for your idea, no, not really.
You are a heinous idiot, and should not make any more threads.
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2008-09-28, 15:10
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Re: Can Human Nature Be Subjective??
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Originally Posted by nshanin
Then what is it?
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It's objective in the sense that there is one true human nature, it's relativist in the sense that human nature only applies to humans. It's not subjective in the sense that every human has a different human nature.
Does that make sense? XD
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