Nietzsche got me thinking.

[easeoflife22]

Just getting into beyond good and evil, and it spawned a interesting thought inside my head.

So I ask you this question; Do you think you could, and humanity can drop what they feel is right and wrong in the interest of human preservation? Do you think you could explore natural things such as homosexuality, pedophilia, heterosexual sex, drugs, free thoughts, etc. These are just few I'm thinking about, but there are obviously many more things that people have grouped into good and evil labeling. Would you give up your morality for improved function and peace within the human race?

Honestly, I think I already have. I can look at anything and talk candidly about it's negatives and positives that can be found without establishing it as right and wrong, but merely for what it just is. I'm going to keep reading, but I thought this would make a good topic as I haven't seen it hear yet. I know those particular topics have been argued here, and most posters had obvious bias that kept them from really looking at the issue in a healthy way. Just my observation.

[Knight of blacknes]

I know myself and I know for sure I'd give up a whole lot for sake of being God. Like sacrificing others or judging people's actions by myself.

[easeoflife22]

Originally Posted by Knight of blacknes

I know myself and I know for sure I'd give up a whole lot for sake of being God. Like sacrificing others or judging people's actions by myself.

Please clarify, cause I'm a little confused what you mean. One way to interpret what you've said is that you'd give up sacrificing others and judging people's actions by yourself to be god. The other way, which I actually think you meant, is that you'd give up your bias and judgmental thoughts to become god so that you could sacrifice others and judge people's actions? Little bit of a contradiction don't you think? Maybe God doesn't judge, he just lets all things come to be without bias?

[Knight of blacknes]

I see your point.

In order to become a God I would sacrifice others or judge other people all by myself. To sit upon the highest throne would be to great a price for me to let go.

[alooha from hell]

this is basically a morality question and ethics. society has deemed certain things, for whatever reason, to be taboo, and unacceptable. whether or not they have any functionality in the preservation of humanity, that is subjective.

but honestly, what would we have to drop to preserve humanity? the birth rate is already ahead of the death rate, so technically we are far ahead in preserving humanity.

but perhaps we have to give up planet earth itself - to move off of our home world and to advance ourselves out into space would greatly strengthen the chances that humanity will survive into the eons. or perhaps we need to give up religions, nationality, and all forms of government to help us combine into a universal state of "human beings" not the race and citizenship we use to classify people. or perhaps we need to give up individuality, and become like automatons working for our preservation under the direction of...some force we all see as being truth.

and even if we do give up all of this, this doesn't mean anything more than the hopeful preservation. it doesn't account for happiness or peace.

[Knight of blacknes]

Preservation means nothing to me. The weak will be automatically severed from the strong in times of great danger. Humans are designed to survive, they will forsake all what they were taught about morals, ethics, etc if their lives were to be at stake.

I think that the greatest human invention is an idea. A government, law, economics, are all ideas. They can't be touched perse but they are there. This is possible because humans have ideas. I would protect those ideas even if all others turn and flee or turn against eachother. Yes, I might be the one worst off but if I succeed, would I not be God?

[Moonius]

Number one on my list of morals is to have a moral code. The rest is irrelevant.

(ie) People don't know shit, even if they know what they had for dinner.

[Knight of blacknes]

Then you are not human to me, go die somewhere where you don't bother us.

Ofcourse, I didn't meant that to offend you but thats how I see it on the finite scale Nietzsche introduces to a conversation.

[alooha from hell]

Originally Posted by Knight of blacknes

Preservation means nothing to me. The weak will be automatically severed from the strong in times of great danger. Humans are designed to survive, they will forsake all what they were taught about morals, ethics, etc if their lives were to be at stake.

I think that the greatest human invention is an idea. A government, law, economics, are all ideas. They can't be touched perse but they are there. This is possible because humans have ideas. I would protect those ideas even if all others turn and flee or turn against eachother. Yes, I might be the one worst off but if I succeed, would I not be God?

if you live, that means you are simply the last remaining effort to preservation. that's all humans can do when it comes down to it, and this goes for basically every living organism: you can keep beings like yourself alive by reproducing. ideas and the like are all shit compared to the preservation of the beings themselves.

and no, you wouldn't be "God" you would just be another human. no matter how much you protect or sacrifice something, you are never more than what you are born as.

[JesuitArtiste]

Originally Posted by alooha from hell

if you live, that means you are simply the last remaining effort to preservation. that's all humans can do when it comes down to it, and this goes for basically every living organism: you can keep beings like yourself alive by reproducing. ideas and the like are all shit compared to the preservation of the beings themselves.

and no, you wouldn't be "God" you would just be another human. no matter how much you protect or sacrifice something, you are never more than what you are born as.

I'm considerably more than what I was born as, interms of mass, intelligence, mobility etc....

But maybe this isn;t what you meant

To answer OP:
No, I don;t think that people can give up there morality for a smoother working society, unless we indoctrinate people from birth or some shit.

Not to mention people more or less do what they want now.
And morality is somethng that will be there regardless, we all feel somethings are wrong, and what are we gonna do when somone goes on a killing/raping/maiming spree? We probaly gonna stop them, which I'm pretty sure involves morality.