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  #21   Add DerDrache to your ignore list  
Old 2008-11-18, 03:45
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I agree with this idea 100% and I would love to see it implemented.

I think punishments should be given based on context. Using racial slurs or stereotypes would probably garner the heftiest fines and/or jail times. After committing one of these crimes the perpetrators could also be uploaded to a database so folks can make sure they aren't hiring or living near a racist.

I am very keen on this idea and I am thinking of writing a letter to my mayor and perhaps even to the President.

Unfortunately something like this will obviously be met with much resistance by overt and covert racists.

Those who want change and a better future must unite and get these laws passed. There is HOPE.
I'm thinking that maybe we could start a movement via networks like Facebook, believe it or not. You get a movement of people making an effort to no longer identify themselves by their race, and then we can try to get some actual legal changes in place (if it's even necessary at that point).

By the way: Would you mind putting WAN on your ignore list? She/He is definitely just trolling this thread and trying to get it locked.
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  #22   Add WritingANovel to your ignore list  
Old 2008-11-18, 03:58
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I did not say hatred in itself was wrong. It is the spreading of hate that is wrong. It has been deemed illegal in many different countries which encompass every major ethnicity. You can try to keep us down but we will win.
Like I said, just because a lot of countries have hate crime laws it doesn't make it right. If a lot of people are committing rape, does that make it right?

Also the only reason vermins like you are "winning" is because your kike brethren have all the money and power in the world.

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Yeah people have a right to hate those different to them, do they have a right to intimidate and recruit others to join them? NO, no, NO!
Depends on what you meant by "intimidate" and "recruit". In fact, I am almost 100% certain that they can recruit, no matter what their message is.

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The fact is Hate Crime laws are a necessary addition to our legal system and I look forward to when they will be issued and enforced. It is unavoidable, it is just common sense to make laws against this evil.
It's necessary according to YOU. I say they are not only redundant, in fact they are a threat to freedom of speech.

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WritingAnovel: Your ignorance has turned me off from trying to argue with you further. Hopefully you will see the light before it is too late. I have nothing more to add then perhaps you apply for some professional help and/or psychiatric medication.
You are shying away from debating with me because you know that making laws prohibiting certain speeches is WRONG.
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  #23   Add Ron Smythberg to your ignore list  
Old 2008-11-18, 03:58
Ron Smythberg Ron Smythberg is offline
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I'm thinking that maybe we could start a movement via networks like Facebook, believe it or not. You get a movement of people making an effort to no longer identify themselves by their race, and then we can try to get some actual legal changes in place (if it's even necessary at that point).

By the way: Would you mind putting WAN on your ignore list? She/He is definitely just trolling this thread and trying to get it locked.
Thats a good idea.

I think though that we could get the laws in place regardless of having a movement. Look at Canada or other nations, they had no national movement.

But yes, I will definitely get started on some kind of facebook group.

Ok, I have ignored WAN. Yeah he is definitely just trolling.
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  #24   Add Slaughterama to your ignore list  
Old 2008-11-18, 04:30
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WAN might be getting overworked about this argument, but hes right, how can you think that any form of censorship is good? Even if someone is inciting hate, they still have a right to their beliefs and have a right to speak their mind. Just because you think that somebody's opinion on a certain matter is bad or evil, does not give you the right to silence that opinion.

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I'm thinking that maybe we could start a movement via networks like Facebook, believe it or not. You get a movement of people making an effort to no longer identify themselves by their race, and then we can try to get some actual legal changes in place (if it's even necessary at that point).
Please, if you are going to do this, do it to a country that's already shitty where the people don't have as much freedom, you will probably be more successful and I don't want you making my country shitty.

This whole argument basically is about peoples feelings, that's the whole reasoning behind it. God forbid someone should have their feelings hurt by the evil white mans racists speeches. Seriously, grow up, this sounds like the same "racial tolerance and understanding" bullshit they feed you in highschool, where they don't care if you're a racist as long as you don't show it.
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  #25   Add Ron Smythberg to your ignore list  
Old 2008-11-18, 05:52
Ron Smythberg Ron Smythberg is offline
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Yeah it may sound radical to you. But all good things meet resistance.

Hate and the spreading of hate, do no good for anyone or anything. You can call it what you want but it is a long time coming.

Canada is one of the freest and safest nations. They also have some of the toughest hate crime laws. I think we could do even better.

No, no, NO! Using racial slurs, stereotypes and even racial classifications do much more harm then good. Look at all the harm caused by racism; genocide, riots, lynchings, etc. It is not about "feelings" as you put it. It is about national security and the securing of a great future for our children. I don't know about you but I would much prefer my children living in a safer and race-speech free environment.
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  #26   Add Warsie to your ignore list  
Old 2008-11-18, 06:04
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what's your point? two wrongs dont make a right. Just because some white racists did something bad it doesn't give the black people carte blanche to do something bad.

Do you even have a point?
noticing your kee-jerk reaction to him. and your past posts

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Making certain speeches illegal just because you dont like them. How typical of a fucking KIKE, which you are, KIKE BOY.


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What culture?
the various African culture, Mr. Sarcasm Troll.

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This is a good point, sort of. The adamancy of Jews in promoting laws against Holocaust denial proves that they have something to hide. If the Jews could easily dispute the claims of Holocaust revisionists, why would they resort to censorship and smears?
I don't know. though it's more then the Jews who passed those laws. IIRC the ones in Germany originally were part of the "Anti-Nazification" programs the Allied Occupation forces did.

Yeah it is odd that they'd be willing to throw people in jail.

History is manipulated yes. see how few people in America talk about the Esstern Front of World War II and how violent that was. The Soviets took the brunt of the shit the Nazis gave them. Yes the US provided a shitload of aid though to help them and keep them from dying though.

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Now please take your racist rantings somewhere else and stop polluting this thread with your hate.
are you serious? Remember you originally used that account to troll people and say all fat people should be sent to fat camps or killed off.

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Like I said, just because a lot of countries have hate crime laws it doesn't make it right. If a lot of people are committing rape, does that make it right?
dudette. That's a shitty argument and could be EASILY turned against you.

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Ok, I have ignored WAN. Yeah he is definitely just trolling.
WritingANovel is female
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  #27   Add Robert Plywood to your ignore list  
Old 2008-11-18, 11:42
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A black individual robs and kills the owners of a Korean convenience store after the clerk tells him he "feels sorry for his mother" because he fastens his pants around his femurs. If I witnessed this, I would say a BLACK, 5'3" 440 pounds wearing a wifebeater, khaki pants and air force one's did it. If I said it was just "some guy" and gave a height, they wouldn't know who to arrest. Even if it wasn't outright racial, I would have to say kinky hair, broad nose, etc. You can eliminate this by simply calling the suspect what he is. It is a natural tendency and acceptable, individual races would not exist if nature didn't intend so.

And most media outlets don't mention race. It's already obvious who did the crime most of the time judging by the area as well as the nature of the crime. Remember the reporter from Arkansas who's home was broken in to, after which she was raped brutally by two black men and then beaten within an inch of her life (she would go on to die) with a hammer? They withheld race as well as knowledge of any suspects for weeks on that incident in the media just for your inflated sense of entitlement. Go choke on a spark plug piggy.

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  #28   Add nikolai the second to your ignore list  
Old 2008-11-18, 12:23
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No, definitely not. We aren't equal, so let's not pretend we are. Blacks are closer to apes on the evolutionary scale. Whites have invented everything you use today and yet you still cannot show any respect for the superior race. You will learn the hard way, boy, you cannot disrespect a white.
Just an idiot. More more. No less.
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Old 2008-11-18, 13:45
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Oh, shit, I am thinking of a certain amendment to a constitution which makes this impossible.

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
That doesn't mean freedom of speech as approved by nancy black boys who know they aren't worth shit so must attempt to fine/jail people telling them so.

If you knew race was equal, you would not have any problem forming a counter argument to any racial slurs, but you know your people aren't worth a shit.
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  #30   Add Slaughterama to your ignore list  
Old 2008-11-18, 20:23
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You see, once you outlaw certain words, and try and censor real life, somebody will have to decide which words will be outlawed, and as language is constantly evolving, you will need more and more restrictions, and some words which are harmless might get put in the restricted list.
Watch the documentary "This Film is Not Yet Rated" its about the censorship of movies and the media.

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No, no, NO! Using racial slurs, stereotypes and even racial classifications do much more harm then good. Look at all the harm caused by racism; genocide, riots, lynchings, etc.
We already have laws in place for those specific scenarios, if you try and take away peoples rights it will lead to more violence.

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It is not about "feelings" as you put it. It is about national security and the securing of a great future for our children. I don't know about you but I would much prefer my children living in a safer and race-speech free environment.
Because Canada is so ridden with hate, violence and racism right? If you're so motivated to change things in the world, go to a country where this is actually an issue.
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