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  #21   Add Yggdrasil to your ignore list  
Old 2008-12-15, 03:10
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Homosexuality is a mental disorder it isn't like race, something that someone has no hand in choosing/becoming. While homosexuals are victims of their own upbringings (the majority of the time) they are still open for derogatory critique as they are a moral threat to the nation, and can change their ways. Homosexuals are vain, narcissistic, they are not healthy and they are bad for society and one of the reasons why man today is so feminized, superficial, and weak. So there is nothing wrong with using that word in any kind of context and as one member made note of, the only people that care about it are closet homosexuals who are ashamed of what they are.
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Right of the bat, you label homosexuality as a disorder, something which no major or important Medical organization does. A gay could just as easily say that heterosexuality is a disorder, although you'd both be wrong. Just because heterosexuals are the majority doesn't mean we're right to call them insane.

You then state that homosexuals are a factor in the detriment of morality of society. Your entire argument is flawed, since morality is both subjective and relative.

After this, you proceed to go on a self-delusional rant stereotyping gays. I don't even have to argue that one.

And finally, to top off your horse shit crock of an argument; a turd-cherry on top. You state that the only people offended by the term gay as derogatory are gays or closet gays. Dead wrong, mademoiselle. If I hear a decent black person get called a nigger, I'll get offended, and if I hear a disabled person called a retard, I'll get offended as well, yet I am neither of the above two.

So what are you trying to say with this steaming shitload of an argument? That because you feel it's right to be derogatory, the ones receiving the insult have no right to be offended? Fuck you.
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Old 2008-12-15, 04:00
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Default Re: whats wrong with calling something "gay"?

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Paragraphs, for future reference; On to the issues:

Right of the bat, you label homosexuality as a disorder, something which no major or important Medical organization does. A gay could just as easily say that heterosexuality is a disorder, although you'd both be wrong. Just because heterosexuals are the majority doesn't mean we're right to call them insane.

You then state that homosexuals are a factor in the detriment of morality of society. Your entire argument is flawed, since morality is both subjective and relative.

After this, you proceed to go on a self-delusional rant stereotyping gays. I don't even have to argue that one.

And finally, to top off your horse shit crock of an argument; a turd-cherry on top. You state that the only people offended by the term gay as derogatory are gays or closet gays. Dead wrong, mademoiselle. If I hear a decent black person get called a nigger, I'll get offended, and if I hear a disabled person called a retard, I'll get offended as well, yet I am neither of the above two.

So what are you trying to say with this steaming shitload of an argument? That because you feel it's right to be derogatory, the ones receiving the insult have no right to be offended? Fuck you.
You're right.

At first when I watched that video, I dismissed it as liberal-bullshit. But now I am starting to see it in a new light.

Think back in time, people used to use the words "nigger" and "jew" as negative adjectives very frequently. For example "that idiot better not Jew me" or "that outfit looks very niggerish". I still know people who say stuff like this, and it makes me cringe. It seems low-class or barbaric to speak in such a manner.

I am starting to think that calling stuff "gay" might be similar.
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Old 2008-12-15, 04:01
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Default Re: whats wrong with calling something "gay"?

OP I am glad you brought this up

I think a new meaning should be added to mean the opposite of the original word

gay used to mean happy,
got mixed up with homosexuality
people attribute Bad to homosexuality

gay= bad

over the years people have just used to it to mean that shit sucks (shits gay) And they aren't using it in a derogatory sense towards homosexuals...

Kinda reminds me of how its cool for black folks call eachother niggas lol
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Old 2008-12-15, 14:53
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Talking Re: whats wrong with calling something "gay"?

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I am starting to think that calling stuff "gay" might be similar.
That, son, is a sign of homosexuality; I recommend that you begin killing and eating bears raw to save yourself from faggotry and damnation, starting forthwith.
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Old 2008-12-15, 18:42
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Default Re: whats wrong with calling something "gay"?

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While I'd agree that "gay" could theoretically have picked up a new meaning that has no connection with homosexuality, it's still inappropriate. If you went around calling everything you didn't like "Mexican", then eventually you'd piss someone off.
But being Mexican isn't a lifestyle choice, unlike being a gigantic glitter-fag.
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Old 2008-12-15, 18:51
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Default Re: whats wrong with calling something "gay"?

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Paragraphs, for future reference; On to the issues:

Right of the bat, you label homosexuality as a disorder, something which no major or important Medical organization does.
The did up until the 80's, when it became politically incorrect.

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

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You then state that homosexuals are a factor in the detriment of morality of society. Your entire argument is flawed, since morality is both subjective and relative.
If morality is subjective, and the majority of people find homosexuality deplorable, homosexuality is immoral.

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And finally, to top off your horse shit crock of an argument; a turd-cherry on top. You state that the only people offended by the term gay as derogatory are gays or closet gays. Dead wrong, mademoiselle. If I hear a decent black person get called a nigger, I'll get offended, and if I hear a disabled person called a retard, I'll get offended as well, yet I am neither of the above two.
I wouldn't either, and I hope DivinityofRacism wouldn't as well, as no one has a hand in choosing whether or not they are born black or retarded. Also, it's funny you mention "decent", exposing what a racist closet queer you are. 70% of Black Americans cut down your right to marry in California and consequently most states in the country this year, I can understand your hatred towards them.
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Old 2008-12-15, 21:42
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Post Re: whats wrong with calling something "gay"?

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1. The did up until the 80's, when it became politically incorrect.

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html



2. If morality is subjective, and the majority of people find homosexuality deplorable, homosexuality is immoral.



3. I wouldn't either, and I hope DivinityofRacism wouldn't as well, as no one has a hand in choosing whether or not they are born black or retarded. Also, it's funny you mention "decent", exposing what a racist closet queer you are. 70% of Black Americans cut down your right to marry in California and consequently most states in the country this year, I can understand your hatred towards them.
I've numbered your bullshit so I can respond to it more efficiently.

1. You say that medical organizations have changed their opinions because of political correctness. Not quite. Scientific opinion changes over time, and as more research and evaluation comes to light, that opinion goes with the strongest evidence of it's time. That opinion is, of course, that homosexuality is just another sexual orientation.

2. You cherry-picking motherfucker. If you would have quoted the rest of that statement, you'd get your rebuttal.

3. Here comes the shit. You first point to people having no hand in being black or retarded. So, I can infer that, in your feeble mind, that sexual orientation is a choice right? I've discussed this in another thread, Autism & Homosexuality. Go read there, but please reply here.

You then hint at me for being a racist for saying "decent" black person. I said that because I didn't want to get called out on the trashy, ghetto kind of black people, so I said decent so some thick fuck wouldn't poke in jest.

And then, you hint at me hating blacks for their political positions, and then insinuate at me being gay. Fuck you. What, because I don't like people being treated like shit for no reason I'm gay? Fuck you. Blacks have their right to their opinion, and however much it may conflict with mine, it is not right for me to hate them for it.

But back to the issue of the OP. Saying something's gay is like saying that someone's being a nigger. I understand that the term gay is not as weighted as the term nigger, but it's still serving to the same effect.
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Old 2008-12-15, 22:04
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Default Re: whats wrong with calling something "gay"?

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1. You say that medical organizations have changed their opinions because of political correctness. Not quite. Scientific opinion changes over time, and as more research and evaluation comes to light, that opinion goes with the strongest evidence of it's time. That opinion is, of course, that homosexuality is just another sexual orientation.
I never said homosexuality wasn't a sexual orientation, neither did anyone else. Pedophilia and zoophilia are sexual orientations, however they are both severely disgusting mental disorders. No evidence has come out that homosexuality is anything but a mental disorder, it is a disorder and it is unhealthy.

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3. Here comes the shit. You first point to people having no hand in being black or retarded. So, I can infer that, in your feeble mind, that sexual orientation is a choice right? I've discussed this in another thread, Autism & Homosexuality. Go read there, but please reply here.
Homosexuals have a hand in choosing whether or not they are gay. Homosexuality is the result of a traumatized childhood or bad parenting, just like narcissism or pedophilia. People can however seek treatment for these disorders and denounce/work against these pandemics from ever occurring again, so people choose to be gay when they promote the homosexual deathstyle and attempt to fight for their right to be filthy.

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You then hint at me for being a racist for saying "decent" black person. I said that because I didn't want to get called out on the trashy, ghetto kind of black people, so I said decent so some thick fuck wouldn't poke in jest.
If you must make a distinction you are a racist.

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And then, you hint at me hating blacks for their political positions, and then insinuate at me being gay. Fuck you. What, because I don't like people being treated like shit for no reason I'm gay? Fuck you. Blacks have their right to their opinion, and however much it may conflict with mine, it is not right for me to hate them for it.
Yes not liking mentally diseased people being ostracized makes you a closet homosexual, because only a closet homosexual or a mentally perverted person would want to defend their narcissistic ways.
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Old 2008-12-15, 22:52
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Thumbs down Re: whats wrong with calling something "gay"?

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I never said homosexuality wasn't a sexual orientation, neither did anyone else. Pedophilia and zoophilia are sexual orientations, however they are both severely disgusting mental disorders. No evidence has come out that homosexuality is anything but a mental disorder, it is a disorder and it is unhealthy.



Homosexuals have a hand in choosing whether or not they are gay. Homosexuality is the result of a traumatized childhood or bad parenting, just like narcissism or pedophilia. People can however seek treatment for these disorders and denounce/work against these pandemics from ever occurring again, so people choose to be gay when they promote the homosexual deathstyle and attempt to fight for their right to be filthy.



If you must make a distinction you are a racist.



Yes not liking mentally diseased people being ostracized makes you a closet homosexual, because only a closet homosexual or a mentally perverted person would want to defend their narcissistic ways.
I'm through with this shit. I should know better than to argue with a spic like you. Your own argument self-pwns..
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Old 2008-12-15, 23:27
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Confirmed homosexual.
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