The purpose of life is..

[cannibal hooker]

Precisely. The purpose of life is.
That may be a bit confusing at first glance, but bear with me.

I believe that at some point in all of our lives we are proposed with the following question:
"What is the purpose of life?"
Some people find this question impossible to answer and therefore succumb to a life that they themselves perceive as meaningless. Since our perception is ultimately what solidifies our reality, it becomes just that. Life loses its lustre and is then lived in vain.

What a preposterous proposal to say that nothing matters! To do so is to devoid one's life of its divinity, and to insinuate that all of existence is but a senseless indulgence.
I personally have grown tired of hearing such a ridiculous question. We've had the answer all along. We've just been asking the question incorrectly. In fact, it is a question that needs not to be asked at all. Ultimately asking such a question is the equivalent to asking the purpose of purpose itself.

Life is the purpose.

I agree with Plato that an unquestioned life is a life not worth living, but to question life itself and resolve to an answer of a frivolous nature is defeating not only the purpose, but purpose itself.




I hope this will generate some conversation.. I'm interested in your outlook on this thesis

[humbletheif]

I like it. The purpose of life truly is just the biological need to eat, sleep, and reproduce-at least that's what I drew out of your post. But then that raises the question of "why me?" on a larger scale than just the individual.

-edited in- But now with the pressure of over population, are people losing the meaning of life? This is when we just exist, or find something fun/helpful to put our life's work into in order to feel like we have a purpose.?

[My Name is The Lord]

One more laughable faggoty "poetic" philosophy submitted for the ten trillion dollar question...

Yours has been registered. It is the 34,345,443,545,404th in the bank as of 2008 AD. Please keep this serial number, #3443348838323434343, should you ever choose to delete it.

[cannibal hooker]

Originally Posted by My Name is The Lord

One more laughable faggoty "poetic" philosophy submitted for the ten trillion dollar question...

Yours has been registered. It is the 34,345,443,545,404th in the bank as of 9,000 BC. Please keep this serial number, #3443348838323434343, should you ever choose to delete it.

I find your attempt of a response laughable, and even more so the insult of "faggoty"
Do tell me of the "faggoty" air of my post.

Or how about a legitimate response with an actual opinion? I have at least applied a reasoned argument, all you have done is stepped in to shut me down with no reason but that it is a question as old as time, which is true. All questions in philosophy are. Does this mean that all people should just give up on trying to provide their insight on such questions, and that automatically they are all rendered "laughable"? By that logic the subject of philosophy as a whole would also be laughable.

You don't even argue that I am incorrect..? I would be accepting of disagreements and contemplations. Not outright insults with no justification.

[cannibal hooker]

Originally Posted by humbletheif

I like it. The purpose of life truly is just the biological need to eat, sleep, and reproduce-at least that's what I drew out of your post. But then that raises the question of "why me?" on a larger scale than just the individual.

-edited in- But now with the pressure of over population, are people losing the meaning of life? This is when we just exist, or find something fun/helpful to put our life's work into in order to feel like we have a purpose.?

I suppose the actual instance of life occurring as a whole is an entirely different contemplation that does still apply to the question. An answer that I would not imagine could be conjured up by logic. I have no evidence to back it, but I personally sometimes feel as though we are part of a universal consciousness that is insatiable until every scenario of existing has been exhausted. It sounds very hippy dippy, I know, or as the previous post stated, "faggoty". But even then, the question of how such a consciousness would come to exist still stands.. and that question escapes me.

[My Name is The Lord]

Ok, I'm sorry. The question escapes you because you are a growing human with an existence crisis and hormonally assaulted emotions that impede your critical thinking skills.

Man developed consciousness as his brain evolved beyond that which is observed in any other animal. Other animals are not self-aware as their brains haven't even come close to evolving to the level of man. Our brains are nothing more than living organs my friend we will not be conscious when their blood supply is cut off. Consciousness is material, the product of electric impulses in your brain.

That is where these non-existent concepts such as purpose and the "mind" (which is just another word for brain) originate, they are all material and as insignificant as tree bark. Life is not a purpose it just happened to be, by chance; because of the laws of motion materials just happened to find themselves situated on this planet which eventually became human beings.

There is not a purpose and there never will be, man will always be mortal and he most likely never will leave this planet, primarily because of this dogmatic existence crisis religious moral-seeking bullshit which distances man from the very intellect we have acquired. The only "purpose" is to exploit that which is around one so that one may procreate. Just because we happen to be self-aware does not make us any more important, divine or eternal than a common flea.

[Defect]

I'll go ahead and agree with My Name is The Lord on this one. This smells like blatantly romanticized bullshit to me. As for my personal opinion, I'm for the "senseless indulgence" thing you mentioned. Oh yeah, that's right, secularism.

"Since our perception is ultimately what solidifies our reality, it becomes just that. " I'm with you there, but somehow the idea of deliberately changing one's perception on life without any logical reason to (other than it feels good and/or gives your life meaning; I mean in terms of truth/fact) a little disturbing. It seems to be the same stuff religious fanaticism is borne out of.

[Belle]

Originally Posted by humbletheif

I like it. The purpose of life truly is just the biological need to eat, sleep, and reproduce-at least that's what I drew out of your post. But then that raises the question of "why me?" on a larger scale than just the individual.

Eat, sleep, reproduce? Those are just things we require to be biologically befined as "living." You're once again robbing something of its purpose by limiting it to something that you can comprehend easily. The oldest truly original "human" action you can take-metaphor. Nothing you can say, not the longest tirade you could espouse upon our ears would ever come close. Neither could I, neither could cannibal hooker. Sorry, did I say metaphor was the oldest human action? Thinking about it, metaphor came second. First came our need to define, and in doing so, "understand." From that arose the very obvious need, the constant nagging in our minds that the short assortment of sounds (and then later letters) we just used to give something meaning...is truly inadequate. So to solve our little dilemma, we must have figured: more words means more meaning! And la tee fuckin dah; metaphor.

If I may, we Michael Bay'd it. MOAR EXPLOSIONS MEENS BETTAR MOVEE! We're still falling for the same fallacies.

Did you see that in her post, she never actually calls life anything but life? The purpose of life is. The first use of life in that sentence is merely the use of those 4 letters so you can understand the topic of the sentence. In leaving the sentence "unfinished," she doesn't fall trap to limiting the unlimited with feeble letters. In that little piece of emptiness between that final "s" and that period, where there stands nothing, it is representative of everything.

Originally Posted by humbletheif

-edited in- But now with the pressure of over population, are people losing the meaning of life? This is when we just exist, or find something fun/helpful to put our life's work into in order to feel like we have a purpose.?

Losing the meaning? No, most of us have never had any. It's just, the more we know, we think it will logically bring us closer to understanding everything, to understanding life. We havn't been satisfied yet (never will be with that route) and some are starting to get afraid. Because the more we try to understand, the more we unearth things that are destructive to our existence.

There's a reason that an archetype of 'flawed pride" exists across stories in all cultures. Where we are now, all began when one first human being couldn't accept what they didn't understand, couldn't walk away satisfied. Ecosystems of all sizes regulate themselves, continue moving in a cyclical fashion. Overpopulation happens in nature, it's just that nature usually fixes it...which we've overcome (we believe). The elastic nature of the planet...the way overpopulation would be solved with a solution equivalent in strength and proportion to the problem...Our ass kicking is going to be monumental. Another way WE'RE THE BEST! Maybe every animal on this planet actually does have the capacity for logical thought in ways we never imagine...Maybe it's just the fact that we were the only ones who couldn't walk away...we held in excess what we still consider to be virtuous today: Pride. What causes wars? Patriotism. What causes wars? Religion. All these animals might have walked away from a life like ours because logically, the cost is too high. A cost we pay in life, and a cost we'll possibly all pay in the most fantastic extinction this Earth has ever seen! One word I can appreciate our invention of right now would be: Expedience. Best word evar. Describes almost everything that's human.

So. What is the meaning of life? The meaning of life is. Answers are so close under our noses sometimes, yet we don't see them. We have to learn that our definition of "answers" is too strict. Until conceding that some things are too infinite (not finite) to be understood (another flawed word), we are deceiving ourselves.

Originally Posted by My Name is the Lord

One more laughable faggoty "poetic" philosophy submitted for the ten trillion dollar question...

Yours has been registered. It is the 34,345,443,545,404th in the bank as of 2008 AD. Please keep this serial number, #3443348838323434343, should you ever choose to delete it.

(Keep in mind you're the one building this final part of my post)

That was your response to one person trying to express their own personal thought, in efforts to stimulate intellectual discussion. You began with an attempt to insult them, to belittle them, an extremely weak tactic amongst trained debaters.

It speaks to your character.

Not only did you try to insult them, but you used the word "faggoty" (not a real word, just a lazy adjective that people of lower intelligence levels generally like to use). It demonstrates your intolerance, because you seem to think it's an insult to be homosexual.

It speaks to your character.

Despite how short your post is, it still manages to be rife with cliche. It reeks of unoriginality, and as such, I know it won't even be committed to my memory; I'll have forgotten you by tomorrow.

It speaks to your character.

Your name is "My Name is the Lord." I don't even know if I need to say anything for this one, but as I mentioned earlier, sometimes we can't see things that are right under our eyes. Remember how I earlier spoke of humans having an excess of pride? Well some have more than others. Which is why, even though I'm only trying to show you something so that you can learn from it (which makes me better than you in no way whatsoever), I feel you will still lash out, likely with swearing, character attack without basis, intolerant insults, and with no real substance to your argument besides its intimidation. In many ways, like a Michael Bay movie. Your name is perfect for the type of post you just made. You are giving yourself the authority you believe comes with that 4 lettered word, placing yourself above others.

It speaks to your character.

You assign a number to something...34,345,443,545,404...quantify it...which to me seems as though maybe, just maybe you are trying to understand it. You never bash any particular part of her philosophy...you just bash her...so do you indeed understand what she is saying? You also leave yourself invulnerable to criticism (or so it may have seemed) by giving us none of your own ideas on life. You could have respectfully declined to accept her views, and then justify why, by giving us some of your own, but you didn't. I know you're sick of hearing it, but:

IT SPEAKS TO YOUR CHARACTER.

If you want me to leave it at a couple sentences you can consider...

Even if cannibal hookers post is the 34,345,443,545,404th piece of philosophy on life to come from humanity, it is at least original, a new number. Which is a compliment, that she managed to be original even considering all the ideas humanity has ever come up with

You, on the other hand said nothing original...all I saw were numbers I've seen over and over again...because everything you said matched something someone had already; to me, you were just a collection of numbers less than 34,345,443,545,404...

It's hard not to sound like your attacking someone when every paragraph starts with you, but it's also hard not to be human, myself being a little upset that you would rather someone BE SILENT than THINK (and encourage others to do the same).

[cannibal hooker]

Originally Posted by My Name is The Lord

Ok, I'm sorry. The question escapes you because you are a growing human with an existence crisis and hormonally assaulted emotions that impede your critical thinking skills.

Man developed consciousness as his brain evolved beyond that which is observed in any other animal. Other animals are not self-aware as their brains haven't even come close to evolving to the level of man. Our brains are nothing more than living organs my friend we will not be conscious when their blood supply is cut off. Consciousness is material, the product of electric impulses in your brain.

That is where these non-existent concepts such as purpose and the "mind" (which is just another word for brain) originate, they are all material and as insignificant as tree bark. Life is not a purpose it just happened to be, by chance; because of the laws of motion materials just happened to find themselves situated on this planet which eventually became human beings.

There is not a purpose and there never will be, man will always be mortal and he most likely never will leave this planet, primarily because of this dogmatic existence crisis religious moral-seeking bullshit which distances man from the very intellect we have acquired. The only "purpose" is to exploit that which is around one so that one may procreate. Just because we happen to be self-aware does not make us any more important, divine or eternal than a common flea.

Touche. I actually appreciate this kind of input(although not the insulting aspects that are not necessary). As all philosophy is, this is just theory. I am actually quite anti-religious if I may have come off as otherwise.. well, I suppose more agnostic as implied by my use of divinity. I also agree that how we came to be is probably chance. Your opinion/theory is just as valid, as you are entitled to it.

[Belle]

Originally Posted by My Name is The Lord

Ok, I'm sorry. The question escapes you because you are a growing human with an existence crisis and hormonally assaulted emotions that impede your critical thinking skills.

You apologize, then proceed to simply insult her again, because she physically can't have the answers, but you can right?

Originally Posted by My Name is The Lord

Man developed consciousness as his brain evolved beyond that which is observed in any other animal. Other animals are not self-aware as their brains haven't even come close to evolving to the level of man. Our brains are nothing more than living organs my friend we will not be conscious when their blood supply is cut off. Consciousness is material, the product of electric impulses in your brain.

You contradict yourself. Although the brain is material, in the way we define it, it wouldn't exist without ELECTRICITY, WHICH IS DECIDEDLY IMMATERIAL.

Originally Posted by My Name is The Lord

That is where these non-existent concepts such as purpose and the "mind" (which is just another word for brain) originate, they are all material and as insignificant as tree bark. Life is not a purpose it just happened to be, by chance; because of the laws of motion materials just happened to find themselves situated on this planet which eventually became human beings.

Tree bark is life...the fact that you consider it insignificant...yes...speaks to your character.

Originally Posted by My Name is The Lord

There is not a purpose and there never will be, man will always be mortal and he most likely never will leave this planet, primarily because of this dogmatic existence crisis religious moral-seeking bullshit which distances man from the very intellect we have acquired. The only "purpose" is to exploit that which is around one so that one may procreate.

You're a defeatist. Actually wait, you're not. You are the flawed thinking of humanity, if you think EVERYTHING IS SIMPLY AROUND US SO WE CAN EXPLOIT IT. That's why we're headed for ultimate destruction.

Originally Posted by My Name is The Lord

Just because we happen to be self-aware does not make us any more important, divine or eternal than a common flea.

YOU A MOMENT BEFORE: Other animals are not self-aware as their brains haven't even come close to evolving to the level of man.

You are a good metaphor for Christianity.

A man passing off his word as God's, full of hypocritical back handed slaps, gaps in both emotion and reasonable thinking, meaningless apologies, and ultimately self destructive tendencies, as your nihilistic little rant has shown.