WTF is the deal with the hate on Prometheum

[RDProgrammer]

I mean come on, the guy is smart. I do not agree with the constant (and I do mean CONSTANT) arguing about semantics but at the end of the day he is an intelligent and informed poster.

Prometheum, don't take this as me agreeing with your methods, but I do appreciate the depth of knowledge you possess and share regularly.

I think at the end of the day we should all learn to not do things that are redundant (GNU argument) or just spiteful (Promefag and the like).

Flame all you want, this is my opinion and I hope that of others in this forum.

Prometheum, I invite you to come hang out in T&T and point people to linux when appropriate if you are unwelcome here.

RDP

[enkrypt0r]

I've always liked Prometheum... The only thing that ever bugged me was all of the arguing over semantics, but that doesn't really matter. He's a smart guy and he helps those who can ask for it without being morons.

[Prometheum]

The whole GNU/Linux argument is NOT semantics. I mean, sure, it is correct, but the real reason I make that argument constantly is because of who it gives credit to.

For starters, GNU code is typically the bulk of any "Linux" distribution. There are a lot more GNU packages than people think; for instance, GNOME is a GNU package. So clearly the GNU Project gets some credit.

But what's going on with that credit? If we give it all to Linus Torvalds, then the new user who looks up Linus Torvalds is first exposed to the mercenary attitude of the open source movement. Anything goes, all licenses are equal, it doesn't matter if they piss on your freedom. Use whatever gets the job done fastest.

If we give half of the immediate credit to the GNU Project, than the open source and free software movement have equal airtime. New users can look up Linus's open-source mercenary ideology, but they'll also be able to look up the GNU Project's free software ideology. Hopefully, they'll get a grip on how in this new GNU/Linux world they're in, their freedom matters.

Our community isn't centered around Windows with a UNIX kernel. The only reason we have a community at all is because of the free software mindset. I don't think it's too much to ask to give free software equal "time" if you will when referring to the system, and I don't think it's too much to ask to give credit where credit is due.

I mean, really, what reason is there to call the system "Linux" other than the fact a bunch of mainstream-media talking heads say that? They also say hacker to mean exclusively "security cracker", and a lot of other bullshit. There's no reason for us to take our cues from them.

All of that being said, the root problem here is that deus is being a troll and encouraging others to do the same. I'm going to continue trying to, you know, contribute to the forum, and hope this goes away without escalating further. Deus banned me a few months back for disagreeing with him publicly and repeatedly, saying that in my absence, E*NIX would blossom into some sort of open source paradise. In fact, Deus himself only posted once during the entire month (thus depriving E*NIX of one of the main "tech support" posters and not providing any sort of replacement) and his predictions failed to come true.

I really hope Deus can get over this and we can agree to disagree, but if he can't, who the fuck needs him? coroner (Biopsy/autopsy) is back, and he capably modded this forum alone for a good long time. We don't need a mod that just pisses on quality posters and resorts to personal attacks and abuse of mod powers to attempt to win arguments.

[deus-redux]

B&M plz.

-deus-

[Dandy Crab]

The guy is sort of an arrogant prick. Refuses to accept any type of criticism on linux and "refutes" linux weaknesses by blaming them on the end user. Bashes any non open-source software simply because it's not open source or doesn't fall under the GNU license.

Knowledgeable and intelligent perhaps, the GNU project could use a far better PR-man than him. The guy needs to develop a serious sense of tact and needs to stop sounding like a religious zealot. Then perhaps people might actually listen to what he has to say instead of calling him a fat linux nerd of a virgin.

[Bum Wax]

Although I am not familiar with Prometheum's posts during the last year I can say with much confidence that the level of hate cannot be approaching that which he received during the Penguicon fiasco

however bygones are now bygones

[deus-redux]

Originally Posted by Dandy Crab

Bashes any non open-source software simply because it's not open source

He'll have you know that's not "open source", it's "free software" - and that's free as in rape, not beer. "Open source" is actually evil, too.

-deus-

[Prometheum]

Originally Posted by Dandy Crab

The guy is sort of an arrogant prick. Refuses to accept any type of criticism on linux and "refutes" linux weaknesses by blaming them on the end user. Bashes any non open-source software simply because it's not open source or doesn't fall under the GNU license.

Knowledgeable and intelligent perhaps, the GNU project could use a far better PR-man than him. The guy needs to develop a serious sense of tact and needs to stop sounding like a religious zealot. Then perhaps people might actually listen to what he has to say instead of calling him a fat linux nerd of a virgin.

I don't know where you're getting the material to base this off of. In the DRM thread (which to my knowledge is my only interaction with you), I refuted every one of your points in a logical way, and the argument didn't have anything to do with GNU/Linux until you brought it up.

You are simply an idiot and a troll. You are spreading lies. I call on you to cite a single source for your claims.

[Prometheum]

Originally Posted by Bum Wax

Although I am not familiar with Prometheum's posts during the last year I can say with much confidence that the level of hate cannot be approaching that which he received during the Penguicon fiasco

however bygones are now bygones

Make sure to discriminate between Prometheus and Prometheum. Though that was a very fun fiasco for all involved.

[dfgremnantsunleashed]

I actually don't have any issues with him and i think that's all. But he should consider giving Windows a chance .
I love Linux but at the end of the day Windows gets my job done and Linux well, lets say my requirements aren't that special but still the knowledge he possess when it comes to Linux systems in general is commendable. But it would be nice if he can lower his guard and try to relax a bit.