Was Parmenides Talking Nonsense?
by Holy_mx
1."Parmenides, convinced that Heraclitus was completely mistaken, proposed that was the exact opposite. He held that change is an illusion and that the universe in reality is a frozen, unchanging object" (Velasquez): "We can speak and think only of what exists. And what exists is uncreated and imperishable for it is whole and unchanging and complete. It was not or nor shall be different since it is now, all at once, one and continous."(Parmenides)
2. Paramenides argued that nothingness or "nonbeing" cannot be real because we cannot even think of nothingness. For if something changes, it must change into something that did not exist before: something must come into being out of nonbeing. But nonbeing does not exist:the universe has no beginning, and nothing in it changes.
3. So what Paramenides is saying is:
Something must come into being out of nonbeing.
Nonbeing does not exist.
Nothing can come from nonbeing.
Therefore change cannot exist.
So lets analyze this by using logic:
Let A= Something
B= Being
C= Nonbeing
D= Exist
E= Nothing
F= Change
So:
A must come into B out of C.
C does not D.
E can come from B.
Therefore F cannot D.
By analyzing this it is understandable that:
B is the same as F.
F is not the same as D.
So:
A must come into B out of F.
F does not D.
E can come from F.
Therefore F cannot D.
Furthermore it is understandable that:
A must come into B out of F.
F does not D.
A and B can come from F.
Threfore F cannot D.
Something must come into being out of change.
Change does not exist.
Someting and being can come from change.
Therefore change cannot exist.
So Paramenides claimed that:
Something can only become being if there is change to link them.
Since change does not exist something cannot become being.
Although something and being can come from change.
Therefore my question is:
Something cannot occupy a specified position, but something and existence in actuality exist. So if we cannot occupy specified positions what are we doing right now, are we not occupying the present position we are in?
There has to be change otherwise there is not a single thing that could occupy a specified position. If Parmenides claimed that anything could not do that, he must have been crazy or not thinking clearly.
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