Does anyone understand the Tao?

[ilbastardoh]

I want to become confused, please talk about it.

[KikoSanchez]

One who speaks of it, does not know! One who knows, does not speak of it!

[kurdt318]

Originally Posted by KikoSanchez

One who speaks of it, does not know! One who knows, does not speak of it!

Does the mother withold love from the child, unless out of pure selfishness?

Does the earth withold nourishment from the plant, unless out of pure greed?

So to, the teacher does not withold Tao from the student, unless out of pure egotism.

Originally Posted by redzed

I want to become confused, please talk about it.

Simply stated(as it should be), Tao shows us that two seemingly polar opposites, are, at their essence one.

[redzed]

So little feedback are you too confused?

Do you imagine the universe is agitated? Go into the desert at night and look out at the stars. This practice should answer the question. The superior person settles the mind as the universe settles the stars in the sky. By connecting one's mind with the subtle origin, one calms it. Once calmed, it naturally expands, and ultimately one's mind becomes as vast and immeasurable as the night sky.

Hua Hu Ching

Come on, at least enlighten us as to what you think about it!

[Rizzo in a box]

Tao is like, ^_^

[ArmsMerchant]

Originally Posted by kurdt318

Simply stated(as it should be), Tao shows us that two seemingly polar opposites, are, at their essence one.

One of the first books I read as a new shaman said that the oldest and most profound truth is that we are all One. And "we" means everything, not just us domesticated primates. It is, I think, impossible to grasp this from an intellectual standpoint, and when one DOES grasp it, words fail.

Hence--"those who know do not speak. . . ."

[Hexadecimal]

Originally Posted by ilbastardoh

I want to become confused, please talk about it.

I only begin to grasp the parts that I have experienced. The mind is useless in understanding the meaning of the tao, but is not useless in the tao.

I have a copy right near me, so feel free to ask me any questions about it. I'll answer them if I can.

[redzed]

Originally Posted by ilbastardoh

I want to become confused, please talk about it.

Okay, I'll take your bait bro.:d My thoughts -- before any comprehension of the Tao is possible, apparently 'oneness' must be realised -- whilst ever I identify as the 'thinker', I create a delusion of seperation. I am the Tao, You are the Tao, All is the Tao, Tao is infinity, the 'aggregate of all being'; a property that takes it beyond the imagination. Stephen Hawkings said something about the limitations science was experiencing in 'picturing', for example - the details of quantum objects, the problem being if our minds are incapable of picturing an object that object will remain unknowable. This is so with an 'infinite', how does one picture the infinite? How to add it up? I agree with Buddha, there's more useful things to work on in life than attempting understanding of mysteries!

Can you dissolve your ego? Can you abandon the idea of self and other? Can you relinquish the notions of male and female, short and long, life and death? Can you let go of all these dualities and embrace the Tao without skepticism or panic? If so, you can reach the heart of the Integral Oneness. Along the way, avoid thinking of the Oneness as unusual, exalted, sublime, transcendental. Because it is the Oneness, it is beyond all that. It is simply the direct, essential, and complete truth.

From: Hua Hu Ching

The Tao gives rise to all forms, yet it has no form of its own. If you attempt to fix a picture of it in your mind, you will lose it. This is like pinning a butterfly: the husk is captured, but the flying is lost. Why not be content with simply experiencing it?