Guide on the Theistic argument

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Originally Posted by MarsCoban

Exactly what form of God are you looking for, Rust? It might be easier for someone to show you evidence if either of you knew what the evidence was supposed to support.

I'm looking for evidence of any god that theists claim exists. Why would I limit the evidence I am willing to listen to, to one particular definition of a god?

This is my stance: You (anyone) have evidence of a god? Show it to me.

I'm pretty sure they think you're just as ignorant as you think they are. Not saying that's good or bad or right or wrong. Just saying.

... Okay? Who cares?

I'm still wondering who you're referring to by "anyone else"...

Isn't it obvious? Anyone else means "anyone who isn't them". I said that as far as I was aware they hadn't shown any evidence to anyone else. I then asked you if you knew of a case where they had, to show me.

Uhhh, ok, I'm pretty sure I already admitted that I was wrong.

I'm pretty sure you said this:

"k, just because you never said there absolutely is no God doesn't mean that you and BP don't seem to take every opportunity to claim a God isnt there. If you weren't claiming, by implacation, that God doesn't exist, what would the purpose of this thread be?"

Which, like I said earlier, is a nice ego-saving way of saying you were wrong. It's not a "I was wrong". It's you putting words in my mouth in return (i.e. "doesn't mean that you and BP don't seem to take every opportunity to claim a God isnt there").

I suck at math.

1. You don't really need to know much math to notice the point. Just, maybe, the definition of a linear function, which you can find in Google easily.

2. I said a lot more than just that example...

Interesting. I agree. Since God is, by most accounts, supposed to be a superior being, isn't it possible that what we think of as God is simply a more advanced life form? And wouldn't it be logical to think that in our vast Universe that there are other life forms, probably at least one of them more advanced than us? Would I need to show you evidence of other life forms existing before you believed they did? Personally, I pretty much take it for granted that they do exist, somewhere. If you wanna call that faith, that's fine, but to me it seems like a reasonable thing to believe.

Something being "more advanced" to us is a vague and unconvincing standard. You could claim a simple human that had a favorable genetic mutation or invented some new technology (if you mean advanced in the technological achievement context) would be "more advanced" than the rest. You would be hard pressed to find people calling that guy a "god".

Not only is the standard very fuzzy, it it has little to do with what theists most often refer to, and what atheists object to, the claims of supernatural powers! I don't know of any atheists that has any problem with the concept of an alien civilization being more advanced than us technologically.

They have a problems with things that have no meaningful evidence.