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Green Planet Environmental issues. The ozone hole. Tree hugging for fun and profit. Toxins in the air, water, and soil. Biotechnological foodstuffs.

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Old 2007-03-23, 20:30
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This is an article about why the Toyota Prius is far less evironmentaly friendly or economical than it's nemesis the Hummer.

http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/edito...asp?NewsID=188



If you have a Prius I pitty you for feeling that you are helping the environment.
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Old 2007-03-23, 21:19
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I've read that article. Hybrid owners apparently don't understand that gas mileage alone does not determine a car's environmental impact.

And before you hybrid people go after older cars with big engines, people that own them are in fact helping the environment even more by keeping an existing car running instead of encouraging new ones to be built.
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Old 2007-03-27, 01:49
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I have to agree with that.

When we were purchasing our current car, we were looking at small to medium vehicles. Things like Peugeot 307's, Prius's, that sort of thing.

Anyway, the life expectancy of these things are pitiful - 5 years and/or 200,000km would be considered good!

Instead, we bought a 7 year old toyota landcruiser with 70,000km on it. It cost less initially, has 8 seats, gets 10L/100km, and can take us all sorts of places (we love our camping..).

It now has 90,000km on it, and has had no problems at all in the 2 years we have had it. We expect to keep it for as long as we can. If we had have bought a small car, we would be 1 year away from looking at replacing it.....

Now no one could argue that my vehicle is not more environmentally friendly than a little car, given all the factors involved... Could they?
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Old 2007-03-27, 09:21
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someone posted this exact thing like three days ago.
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Old 2007-03-27, 16:06
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someone posted this exact thing like three days ago.
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Old 2007-03-27, 17:26
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The next generation uses a compressed nitrogen drivetrain that will eliminate the battery issue.
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Old 2007-03-28, 12:43
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The next generation uses a compressed nitrogen drivetrain that will eliminate the battery issue.
Unless you can provide evidence for that, I'd say its a flat out lie. A google search shows me that the next generation Prius will use Li-Ion batteries instead if Ni-Cad, and a re-vamped electrical system will rely more heavily on them.

What kind of pollution issues go along with Li-Ion production? Anything similar to NiCad?
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Old 2007-03-30, 04:47
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also, I've heard (NOT SURE IF 100% TRUE) that the battery in hybrids is chemical waste, and cannot be broken down, another environmental downfall
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Old 2007-03-30, 05:34
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Hydrogen, 2009. Wait it out.
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Old 2007-03-31, 03:57
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Hydrogen, 2009. Wait it out.
I hope that day never comes. Hydroen is the worst idea yet.
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