god

[nystagmus]

for one crazy non-sensicle(sp?) moment, lets pretend a god exists. now where the hell did it come from!? (ha! my sense of humour laughs at the joke i just made. nevermind, you dont understand. lol) anyway, where did it come from!? it cant just make itself. im sure one of you lotr has thought about this one. i need a answer.

[Clockwork]

quote:Originally posted by nystagmus:

for one crazy non-sensicle(sp?) moment, lets pretend a god exists.

You begin with the assumption that people here don't believe in god...

quote:now where the hell did it come from!?

... and go on to ask them to defend its existence? Does this seem wrong to anyone else?

By the way, the word is "nonsensical," as in "nonsense" + "ical." Just cuz, you know, you asked.

EDIT: One of these days, I'm gonna figure out this whole UBB code thing. But not, apparently, today.

[This message has been edited by Clockwork (edited 05-03-2003).]

[nystagmus]

ok then dont answer the question.

[The Crusader]

We're human beings...we only understand beginning and ends....but God is always, maybe it's beyond our ability to understand this....but who are we to say everything has a beginning and an end?...especially when we are regarding the creator of all beginnings and ends anyway....

[nystagmus]

^ i like you.

but i still need an answer. or a good one at least

[Clockwork]

I apologize for my sarcasm earlier. I wasn't in a very good mood.

Anyway, to address your question:

Some theists might simply say that there was nothing before god simply because there was no "before god"; god has always been and will always be. They might say that our notions of "before" and "after" only exist because god made us inherently finite and limited in our view of the universe. Then again, they might not.

The truth is that this is one of those nasty theological issues that many people just prefer to leave alone, since there doesn't seem to be an explanation that satisfies everyone. To be fair, this sort of problem is not peculiar to religion; at the moment, there's a thread in the Mad Scientists forum in which the poster says that the "big bang" theory is a load of crap for precisely this reason. The very nature of scientific inquiry, though, demands that the subject be addressed, even if it doesn't seem to make any sense.

[insert name here]

the theory of god doesnt make any sense to me either. where the hell did it come from?? how the was it created?? there couldnt have been a god from the very begining of time when the whole galaxy was first created. and if he truly exists, then how come he hasnt made his point across? he doesnt give religous people any proof that he exists and any reason to believe in him. ive heard people say "if there is a god, let him kill me right now" and nothing happened, and also i read some thing about "if someone was to prove god wrong, it would undo all of existence". im sure many peopel have proved him wrong. so...there is no such thing as god.

~peace~

PS. if there is a god, let him kill me right now.........hmm, im not dead yet

*5 mins. later*

still not dead, im right here sittin at my comp.

[jollyfatsdomino]

Because God, as most people think of him, tend to be human-like (because we'd realy like him to be), but yet all-pervasive and all that gradious crap, I tend to do away with what most common descriptions of him are, because they're contradictory. I try to think of him as being more like Brahman, only a person. He, always will be, and always has been, the existence and non-existence of totality. He's everything and nothing. He never began, was born, or anything of such. He IS. And that's it.

[I_Like_Traffic_Lights]

For understandable purposes consider God the tendency for all things to seek to fufill their law of being.

For example, right now God is my cherry coke striving to be cherry coke, my chair doing everything it can do to be a chair, my thoughts working hard to be nothing else besides my thoughts.

If you can understand that, THAT is what God is all about in a nutshell in my mind.

[Haddock]

About God having existed forever and always will. If God can exist without a beggining or end then why can't the universe?