Why ?(you finish)

Lovley · #1 2003-06-21, 19:14

I'm attempting to construct a list of "Then why" questions dealing with "God". This is pretty much for atheists asking questions to those who do believe in "God", or even the theists that have questions themselves..

"God" supposedly created the earth in 6 days, rested on the 7th.. correct? Then why do dinosaur fossils date back to millions of years ago, before humans ever existed?

Why did "God" speak to people before, but he doesnt now? "Abraham... Abraham!"

Why do people pray? If it's "God's" will to do something, he'll do it anyway, will he not?

if I come up with more, I'll post them.. but that's what I can scrounge up in a couple minutes of thinking.

Beany · #2 2003-06-21, 19:46

Ooo goody, I like questions.

1: The whole god thing creating the Earth in 7 days is probably crap. Even if it were true it would have happened way before dino's.

2: God does speak to people now, but most people don't know how to listen. You need a peiceful mind to be able to listen, but nowadays people's minds are cluttered with garbage. The 'Ego' is overfed. We worry too much about pointless things like 'our appearance' instead of what God has to say. Although it's not technically God speaking to us. We are all a part of God, and it's our very own 'godself' (you could say our inner-self) that talks to us. At the back of our minds where we can't here it (due to mental clutter). This is where meditation helps.

3: As I said, we are also a part of god, and we also have a 'will'. Through the power of belief we can change things, since creation is formed through belief. People pray for things but most people don't know how to pray. If you want something to 'be' you have to belief that it's already so.

Here's a bible quote:

"Whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive" matt.21:22 .

This is how jesus did loadsa cool shit. He was enlightened and had complete understanding of how life works. He believed in what he did, and it happened.

Ps: This thread could be a disaster when people start giving different answers.

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Lovley · #3 2003-06-21, 20:26

If god created Adam and Eve shortly after dinoscaurs (along with the rest of the animals) then there'd be human fossils dating as far back as dinosaurs.. . And if 1 thing in the bible can be looked at as not true, it's very possible that nothing else in the bible is true.. How could someone tell what was true and what wasnt true? The bible, as honorable as it is made out to be, shouldnt be filtered to find the truth.

Beany · #4 2003-06-21, 20:42

God didn't just create Adam and Eve out of the blue. Humans were evolved just like anything else, but it was only at a certain point when humans got 'free will'. Perhaps adam and eve were the first with free will, i don't know.

You don't have to believe anything in the bible. It wasn't written by Jesus, it was written by different people, some of which may not have understood certain things correctly.

It does have some bullshit in it but you can use your own judgement for that.

Either way you won't go to hell, so don't be worryin bout that

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Lovley · #5 2003-06-21, 22:41

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quote:Originally posted by Beany:

God didn't just create Adam and Eve out of the blue. Humans were evolved just like anything else, but it was only at a certain point when humans got 'free will'. Perhaps adam and eve were the first with free will, i don't know.

You don't have to believe anything in the bible. It wasn't written by Jesus, it was written by different people, some of which may not have understood certain things correctly.

It does have some bullshit in it but you can use your own judgement for that.

Either way you won't go to hell, so don't be worryin bout that

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You have got to have the most interesting outlook on (Christianity? or just religion in general) that I've heard in awhile.. It's not too abstract, but laid back. Cool dude.. I dont agree with ya, but it's a nice change than the rightwing strict-ass Catholics I am surrounded by in this town.

If the population of my town was inhabited by Christians (or theists) like you, It'd be much easier to live in.. lol.

Like I said, still dont agree with you. I just feel there's too much pain in the world for there to be some higher being that "loves and protects' us..

another question, inspired from another post in this forum..

Why do innocent babies die?

crunked · #6 2003-06-22, 00:58

If you read Genesis, it states that there were animals of every kind created before man was created. The word "day" must have a different measure of time than the 24 hour day we live by.

Why do innocent babies die? I don't know the answer but maybe, Biblically speaking, to reaffirm that man is not the highest being and is not in total control of destiny.

We don't live in a perfect world, there is an element of chaos that we don't have power over. Sometimes it is death.

Go ask Pandora. I think she'll know.

Rust · #7 2003-06-22, 01:01

Why do innocent babies die?

From a Christian point of view:

God made us free, with free will. The possible causes of death, of innocent babies are either natural causes, or brought by a human being.

Because God made us with free will, it is not his fault, but man's fault, if he chose to bring death to the baby.

Giving us free will is the only "just" way for God to handle things. If he didn't, he would be oppressing people...

#8 2003-06-22, 01:03

Why do innocent babies die?

That question implies that death is a punishment which it isn't and it is not God's position to mess with free will which in I think in all cases would be in affect when the baby died

Lovley · #9 2003-06-22, 01:33

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quote:Originally posted by Rust:

Giving us free will is the only "just" way for God to handle things. If he didn't, he would be oppressing people...

ok, so why in the bible does "God" basically say "you must believe in me, only in me (not another god) blah blah.. and why the hell did he make sure that not everyone could speak the same language? bullshit, bullshit!

Rust · #10 2003-06-22, 05:29

"ok, so why in the bible does "God" basically say "you must believe in me, only in me (not another god) blah blah.. and why the hell did he make sure that not everyone could speak the same language? bullshit, bullshit!"

First of all, you are assuming the bible is:

1. 100% correct.

2. Written by, or "directed" by God/Jesus.

3. That it is literal.

Alot of things to assume...

Even the Christian/Catholic Churches acknowledge that most if not all the passages are metaphors.

Secondly, God could suggest things to you, he could warn you and still be "just". He just can't force you; and you my friend, are the prime example...