you believe in god cause your scarred of dying

Wait - you're an atheist who finds truth in epipiphany?

I can die, now...

[eBlip]

quote:Originally posted by Armed&Angry:

Wait - you're an atheist who finds truth in epipiphany?

I can die, now...

im sorry....i dont understand....me being bit thick....

i looked up epiphany ....which is what i thought you meant, and it said

the manifestation of christ to the magi...

the festival commemorating this...

any manifestation of a god or demigod....

im just curious...as to what your statement meant..

[eBlip]

quote:Originally posted by Fuck:

hey eblip, what is your opinion on atheists who have had near death experiences even though they didn't believe there was an afterlife?

i have no opinion that matters....only the experiencer knows the truth of what he experienced...

me having an opinion is just pure worthless speculation really...

and a near death experience, means that they are still alive....even if they are "medically dead".

100 years ago you were medically dead if you stopped breathing.

nowadays you are supposidly dead if you have stopped breathing AND THERE IS NO BRAIN ACTIVITY.

then they just invented cryogenic freezing, so the line of real death is constantly moving.

but if someone 'dies' and then is ressucitated and says, when i was dead.... this and that happend....

i wont believe or disbelieve them, or tell them to start believing, as this experience was TOTALLY PERSONAL, and their interpretation is also something totally personal.

its up to them...its their soul on the line, and hence their responsibility....

ill take care of my own soul, and be totally unaffected by what happens to them.

some people say they can move things with their minds, and they could be telling the truth...but most are probably lying.

whether they are telling the truth or lying is of no use to you or me.

it wont help us personally, so its a waste of the little valuable time we have...

but we all waste time, so why not induldge....

[Dark_Magneto]

Just for the record, noone ever comes back from being braindead.

[Kikey_Kikeowitz]

quote:Originally posted by Dark_Magneto:

Just for the record, noone ever comes back from being braindead.

True, you don't have much control over your physical body if your brain cells are dead.

It would appear, however, that there have been cases where there is no brain activity whatsoever and the person in question still maintained a sense of consciousness.

The case of Pam Reynolds comes to mind. It's an interesting read.

[ArmsMerchant]

I have no fear of dying. Been there, done that, have the karma. Seriously, I have died many times and come back. I shall die again and come back again. I am heavy into recycling.

I love and trust my god, but not out of fear. Granted, the religions you mention are fear-based and generally fucked-up.

I reject organized religion absolutely and embrace spirituality with all my heart and mind and soul.

[DarkFire47]

People can believe what they want. Who says that theists, or athiests are right or wrong. People that make you try to subscribe to their beliefs (eg. bible toting catholics, jahova's witnesses, etc.) are wrong. People have their own beliefs for their own reasons and it should stay that way IMO.

I have since turned away from organised religion and gone the independent spiritual route. I guess most of us our scared of dying to an extent, but for different reasons.

[Kikey_Kikeowitz]

I look forward to death.

I'm not having a good time in this life, I want to start over.

Of course, I'm still leaving the opportunity open for it to improve. Suicide? I think not.

[Beany]

quote:Originally posted by Kikey_Kikeowitz:

I look forward to death.

I'm not having a good time in this life, I want to start over.

Of course, I'm still leaving the opportunity open for it to improve. Suicide? I think not.

Me to Kikey!

But I think that the fears that fuck up this life will follow me to the next until I've confronted them. So the next life could just be as bad exept the same fears just create different horrible circumstances.

[This message has been edited by Beany (edited 07-22-2003).]

[UrbnTbone]

quote:Originally posted by Armed&Angry:

Wait - you're an atheist who finds truth in epipiphany?

I can die, now...

LOL