The Rock Theory

Insanity540 · #1 2003-07-19, 15:19

First let me state that this is in no way an attack on any religion, people(s), or anything. I respect other peoples beliefs as just that, your own personal beliefs.

THE ROCK THEORY:

" IF god is all-mighty and all-powerful, he could, in theory, create a rock which even he could not lift."

Now if he cannot create the rock, or can create it, but can't lift it, how can he be all-mighty and all-powerful?

Your thoughts.

UrbnTbone · #2 2003-07-19, 21:24

This rock of your own creation you can't even lift. This is not meant as an attack on any of your thoughts. Just a friendly reminder, that you are not a creator so you could discuss what is scud-range above your (and any) human mind.

So please show intelligent thought, instead of self-depreciating irony you intended to offense God with...

Dr Kamme · #3 2003-07-19, 21:31

I have no god, but UBT is so right; belief is what you talk about, not physics.

Dark_Magneto · #4 2003-07-20, 02:03

An omnimax being's properties already contradict themselves simply by their definitions. No experiment is neccessary.

UrbnTbone · #5 2003-07-20, 06:19

Dark bulldozer bringing the debate to ground zero...

But hey, let's follow you in your nonsense.

Let's say, huh, atheism is a religion, and its creed is fanatical since it was never proven, plus, it can't insure anyone their life will be void of worry. What a false god is that?

Or: I hear a neighbour sometimes but I never see him/her, so that must be an hallucination, there can't be a neighbour since no proof was given.

Or, any nonsense that will yet make more sense than your typical teen reactive-destructive rage.

Wanna make sense? Learn, about logic, agnosticism, skepticism. Don't be fanatical-blind.

Craftian · #6 2003-07-20, 07:10

Quote:

quote:Originally posted by UrbnTbone:

But hey, let's follow you in your nonsense.

Let's say, huh, atheism is a religion, and its creed is fanatical since it was never proven,

Do you believe in the pink unicorns?

WHY NOT!?!?! You can't prove they don't exist, can you?

Quote:

quote:Or: I hear a neighbour sometimes but I never see him/her, so that must be an hallucination, there can't be a neighbour since no proof was given.

Except you don't ever hear him, or have any evidence of the existence of your neighbour.

Quote:

quote:Wanna make sense? Learn, about logic, agnosticism, skepticism. Don't be fanatical-blind.

*Mocking laughter*

UrbnTbone · #7 2003-07-20, 09:13

Yeah, laughter I didn't intend because I don't follow ways that are intended to harm anyone.

But exposing nonsense by other nonsense, is what I did. Read the post again if you got me wrong.

There is no proof for God, and no proof against God. All the rest is commentary.

Beany · #8 2003-07-20, 10:48

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quote:Originally posted by Craftian:

Do you believe in the pink unicorns?

WHY NOT!?!?! You can't prove they don't exist, can you?

Dude what's your obsession with pink unicorns?

Couldn't you think of a more masculine example?

Fuck · #9 2003-07-20, 15:40

If there were a being that were to create the universe, and all of the stars and planets and everything... do you really think our human brains could comprehend everything about it? I'm not saying God is All Powerful or God isn't all powerful, I'm just saying that human logic is a tool of humans... the way we think is very flawed, so why can't this system of logic also be completely flawed and only seem right to us when in reality, we're completely wrong?

That might not make any sense at all, sorry. I just woke up

abner · #10 2003-07-20, 16:50

aye, often I have problems with religion, however I find myself believing that there has to be a higher power. My reasoning (Bare with me, this is hard for me to express in writing.): Everything post big bang, or whatever theory you choose to believe, might just follow natural laws that govern such things. However, there has to be something that set off the first the big bang. There has to be a divine spark. And that divine spark is my god.

hugz,

Abner