Enlightenment comes when...

[Beany]

...you finally accept with 100% faith that you don't know anything.

[Dark_Magneto]

Each individual knows for 100% certain that they exist beyond any and all doubt whatsoever. It's the only axiomatic statement.

[Beany]

True, but that also means that you are aware of yourself. You can't be enlightened to the fact that you're everything whilst going around believing that you are you and you only.

[Beany]

I may be wrong on both account btw. It's open for discussion.

[redzed]

quote:Originally posted by Beany:

Enlightenment comes when...

one realises the only constant is change.

[Kakkaraun]

quote:Originally posted by redzed:

one realises the only constant is change.

Not really. The universe(s?) is filled with things beyond our knowledge and ken. How are you to know that somehow, everything is dynamic? As stated before, the only thing we can really know is ourselves...but is that even true? You might say "Of course!" but think about it...from the beginning of our lives we are filled with a certain paradigm, a belief of how the world works.

Some people have surpassed that, a lot have, to tell the truth. But maybe beyond everything lies a truth so far beyond any reality paradigm that nobody has figured it out yet.

My brain is broken.

[I_Like_Traffic_Lights]

Nietzsche once said something along the lines of we say lightning flashes, but are there really a lighning and a flash? Because of the subject/predicate distinction in our langauge we trick ourselves into thinking there's a subject "lightning" and it's doing something "flashes". But there is no being behind the doing. People work the same way we say Daddy drinks, daddy works, daddy eats, daddy scratches. Cutting to the point, you are a sum of all your actions. nothing more.

In essence, not only do you not know anything, but there is no "you" as most people consider it.

All that aside I feel that Enlightenment comes within a striking moment of death.

[Beany]

Sorry to stray from the subject, but here's a crazy lightning related thought.

Behind the illusions of life you get reality, which is a complete mass of lightning(ness).

What we see as lightning is actually a temporary tear in the illusion.

How's that for a mad notion?

[I_Like_Traffic_Lights]

quote:Originally posted by Beany:

Sorry to stray from the subject, but here's a crazy lightning related thought.

Behind the illusions of life you get reality, which is a complete mass of lightning(ness).

What we see as lightning is actually a temporary tear in the illusion.

How's that for a mad notion?

you're on fire lately, go man go.

How about when you close your eyes there are absolutely no limitations to your universe, so why should eyes wide open make a difference?

[ArmsMerchant]

I doubt it is possible to adequately verbalize what enlightenment is "like." Kind of like trying to explain a sunset to a blind person, or sex to an artificial intelligence. Or compassion to a Republican.