My beliefs about the bible.... what are yours

[MysticTear]

Here is how I think the bible was really created.

A group of a few men were bored one day so they went to have a drink. Unfortunately, they had too much to drink so they started to haluscinate (or however you spell that)because the person that gave them the drinks slipped in some kind of drug. They saw this white glowy person and that person was floating. They thought that they had to make something to remember this person.

So these drunk guys got together with ink and a few blank scrolls and wrote stories. In the end, they called it the bible.

In conclusion, the bible is nothing more then a bunch of words put together by a bunch of drunks that were drugged. It is nothing more, nothing less

[Beany]

Partly true, but grossly misunderstood (mainly by xtians).

God exists, but not in the sense that the bible portrays.

Jesus existed and was a fully developed soul.

Many of the magical stories in the bible could very well have been true, but were only magical in the sense that they haven't been scientifically explained yet.

Plus there's a lot of bullshit in it, but I haven't even read it so what the fuck do I know?

[Fuck]

The bible is like a thin sliver of the bigger picture, the truth. And no, it's not like some drunks just wrote it... many people wrote it, but who knows who it was? I was reading some book in the bookstore the other day that the people who wrote the bible never met Jesus or the apostles, and wrote it long after it happened.... that the governments back then destroyed religious scriptures that wouldn't help them to control the people... not sure.

But you can't just act like christians own the word "God"... they didn't create God, they just don't understand God at all and pretend they understand it more than some people... and they really just don't.

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[UrbnTbone]

The bible is almost meaningless just read like that.

But when you realize that it is written in a language whose every letter is a pool of energy, and that no combination of those letters is meaningless, then you may wanna read it in the original Hebrew and fill up your ears with that holy mantra of mantras.

Some people repeated it so many times they know it by heart just as others know shorter mantras, including the traditional cantilation.

It is a living organism, with many levels of insight.

PaRDeS simple, allusive, allegoric, secret.

+ variations in letters' size, added letters, ellipse of letters, cantilations which brings an extra key to the text, etc...

Now of course, there are these kabalists of western tradition to imply the bible is meaningless besides a few historical details, and that the hebrew language was stolen from Egypt, together with the kabbalah.

In other words, you can be a self-called "kabalist" and an antisemite at tyhe same time, (mis-)using Hebrew yet Jew-bashing.

Just like there are people to use the "ancient testament" as a mere basis for their own theology yet Jew-bashing.

The bible is so little known because it has been hidden behind the forest of christian misuse and misunderstanding.

Same for the kabalah, it has been disallocated and reallocated, its correspondences inverted and corrupted.

Well it had to be so, for some reason.

But there are always these newbies teaching you lessons as if they had it all, when they barely started to understand their own western digest, fast-food version of what was once called Kabbalah.

Kind of what is happening to magic with the Harry Potter phenomenon: so many youths hanging around with symbols they don't have a clue of what hides deep inside. People talking kabali kabalo kabolah kabbolack, with no clue, and giving lessons.

That's about what the bible is vs. what people were told to think about it.

[ArmsMerchant]

I'm pretty much with Beany on this one. As Mark Twain put it, the Bible contains "some noble poetry, a wealth of obscenity, and upwards of a thousand lies."

If you are at all interested in getting to the bottom of a lot of Biblical stuff, I strongly recommend you read The Urantia Book.

[cashual21]

To me, the bible is nothing more than a story that is meant to provide guidlines for succesful living, for instance it promotes virtues and other lessons and morals. It is in my opinion that it was only meant to be of suggestion and not of "celestial law."

Poorly worded,

--cashual21

[DarkFire47]

The bible is nothing more than a collection of stories. It is also what amounts to the history of civilization.

[UrbnTbone]

The bible is the "magick of God" so to speak.

Why do you think even the most obscure antisemitic magician still needs Hebrew and biblical originated definitions like the sephiroth etc... if not that there is something more into it than just stories and patriarcal brainwash?

Again: the bible is the wave, it's not the wave that counts to the surfer but how you catch it.

Of course it is hidden behind tons of christian misconceptions. But don't throw the baby with the bath waters.

[Spookey]

The bible is just a collection a rules and ideals that uses peoples fears and hopes to scare them into uniting under one thing. If the majority of the people in a nation are Christians then the leader of the church manipulates the people to vote for someone or try to ban certain things (pornography contraceptives etc.)It was just a way to control nations by controlling the people.

[Ghawd]

Ever see the Monty Python movie "Life of Brian"? Thats my views on what i think happened with jesus.(if you haven't seen it, go rent it). I personally believe that the bible was a bunch of moral-crap that was created along the way (most likely all exagerated for story telling purposes) as a guideline for life, for the followers. But hey, if im wrong, ill probably be the guy who has to wipe hitlers ass after getting that pineapple lodged up it.

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