The beginning of the beginning?

[hung like a hamster]

This is one topic no one will ever know. Whatever the theory there still has to be something before that. For example, God created everything, but where in the fuck did he come from? I'd like to know what everyone thinks of this.

[d4v3]

the religious answer is that god just always was and is.

the fact of the matter is that god doesn't exist, you're not special, he's not listening, and all you have is this one life, live it good.

Edit: typo that would have caused a lack of understanding.

[This message has been edited by d4v3 (edited 08-13-2003).]

[The Marksman]

well although im of the belief that god does not exsist i beliefe that exsistance began like this.

before there was nothing no space time or anything at all no rules no reality, because of this that nothing began exsistance it was all there was, this exsistance is an infinite spread over an infite which equals zero.

but something changed for some reason there was an exseption as there are to all rules and that infinite split it became two wholes, space and time. this unbalanced the universe and the universe ruptured, a tear through space was created, this was a black whole.

the black whole shifted the nrg of the unvirse and this caused friction much like an explosive compound this an explosive chain reaction began the big bang. after this the energy also split like light hitting a prism now turned primerally into heat and gravity so intense that protons neuutrons and electrons began to form and fuse tgeather. This created elements which do to gravitational force attracted to each other and caused reactions these reactions condensed and became stars.

stars unbalanced and exploded realeasing all diffrent types of nrg and matter created due to there intense fusion reactions occuring inside of them. these stars further tore space and released matter feeding the choas that started it all.

But still our universe remained an infite 1/0 although theoretically undevined it can be understood that even with a 0% probability inside an ifinite that 0% becomes a certanty. this means thate eventual everything will occur all possibilities will happen over the course of thousand and thousand of universe dieing out and exploding recycling themselves into new ones until everything has happened.

because everything will happen anyhting can happen and thats how i explain the universe.

[I am Weasel]

quote:but something changed for some reason

That's why you can never prove it to anyone who thinks otherwise.

[Direckshun]

d4v3's answer was solid.

A Christian does believe that God always is, was, and will be. A Christian sees God as a force most necessary in a universe bound by His rule.

I part from d4v3's post, though, when he claimed that the "fact of the matter" is that God doesn't exist. I have yet to understand why anyone would claim this as fact, I myself believe in God and I wouldn't be foolish enough to claim His existence as proven fact.

But, for what it's worth, his answer was good.

[I_Like_Traffic_Lights]

The end of the universe is the begining.

nuculear winter anyone?

big bang any one?

*gives you all rasberry*

[The Marksman]

i find it infinitly easier to believe that some small unbalance accured causing a huge chain reaction, over an all powerful being simply deciding that the universe would exsist now.

maybe my arguement isnt complete but its certainly more plausible then the christian one.

[Direckshun]

Why?

[Kikey_Kikeowitz]

quote:Originally posted by d4v3:

the religious answer is that god just always was and is.

the fact of the matter is that god doesn't exist, you're not special, he's not listening, and all you have is this one life, live it good.

Edit: typo that would have caused a lack of understanding.

[This message has been edited by d4v3 (edited 08-13-2003).]

Whatever happened to being an impartial agnostic?

[DarkFire47]

God is a concept we will never comprehend. We just can't.