If the christian god is a fair god

Son of Northern Darkness · #1 2003-09-04, 01:14

Then why is he sending so many people to hell without giving them an opportunity to worship him? Think about all the people around the world that havent heard of the christian god, they're all going to hell. So are all the babies that die before they get a chance to worship him etc etc. Not very fair eh?

As you've probably realised, I'm not a christian, nor do I agree with the religion.

Discuss

Fascistsmasher · #2 2003-09-04, 01:23

Christianity never even pretended to make sense. (I have personal experiences with this.)

Wings Of Azrael · #3 2003-09-04, 01:23

To speculate on who went where and why is in vain. We do not know where anyone has gone. God grants mercy and salvation to whom he will and is a just God. No soul shall be wronged. If you have never heard of the one God as a youth or in your culture then I don't know what will happen. I don't believe it would be bad. The Christian God is the same God of the Muslims and the Jews. There is only one God, the God of Abraham(pbuh). And know of all those who show mercy, he is the Most Merciful.

Kikey_Kikeowitz · #4 2003-09-04, 01:32

The Christian God is not the same as the Jewish God. Not even close.

Christianity and Islam have way more in common with each other than Judaism. Judaism's not even in the same fucking spectrum of the other two.

It might as well be an entirely different belief structure.

Fascistsmasher · #5 2003-09-04, 01:36

Kikeys right, the teachings of the "New testament" basically discount all of the Torah. And from what i know about Islam its the same situation there,

---Beany--- · #6 2003-09-04, 08:27

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quote:Originally posted by Son of Northern Darkness:

Then why is he sending so many people to hell without giving them an opportunity to worship him?

I asked the same question to christian friends. They say that everyone will hear about christianity about once in their life. I think many will agree that that is total BS.

Wings Of Azrael · #7 2003-09-04, 08:37

It is my belief that the Jews, Christians, and Muslims have the same God. The God of the old testament closely resembles the God of the Holy Quran. The new testament is shaky to me. I think it is very much altered from its original state and was perverted by Paul. The only part of the new testament I believe or put any kind of validity in are the quotes of Jesus(pbuh) himself. Kikey will probably disagree about the similarities of the Jew God and the Muslim God, but the similarities are very strong.

Sarcophagus · #8 2003-09-04, 13:50

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quote:Originally posted by Son of Northern Darkness:

Then why is he sending so many people to hell without giving them an opportunity to worship him? Think about all the people around the world that havent heard of the christian god, they're all going to hell. So are all the babies that die before they get a chance to worship him etc etc. Not very fair eh?

As you've probably realised, I'm not a christian, nor do I agree with the religion.

Discuss

I was wondering about this one a few years back, so I asked around. The Bible actually adresses this... as far as remembering WHERE in the Bible you can find the info I'm totally fucked, I just can't remember (oOOoh not a very good christian am i! hehe)

Anyway, the deal is... no one has to be TOLD about God in order to believe in Him. God made Himself evident in nature... so some dude sitting out on a secluded island in the middle of the ocean who has never even seen a missionary, all he has to do is look at the world around him, nature, the birds, trees, flowers, animals, his family, tribe etc.... and he can observe God. It is God's little "Hey, I'm here!" message to everyone, His signature if you will. Faith is inborn in man, he belongs to God, and is aware of God... if it weren't such a popular trend to be an athiest or agnostic then I seriously doubt many people would have any trouble with faith in God, because when you just look around He becomes so obvious.

If God left it up to us humans to save souls then that would be a pretty flawed plan, wouldn't it?

Christians do more damage to the case for God than anyone else in the world anyway, such a shame.

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#9 2003-09-04, 16:24

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quote:Originally posted by ---Beany---:

I asked the same question to christian friends. They say that everyone will hear about christianity about once in their life. I think many will agree that that is total BS.

Despite the ranting of the psychos, most Christian groups I know of hold that the simple living of a moral life is good enough for God. It's just that, in their view, it's damn near impossible to live your life morally without regular help from a Christian congregation.

And sarcophagus, I wonder if you might be able to elaborate on your last post, as I'm genuinely baffled.

jester461 · #10 2003-09-04, 19:38

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quote:Originally posted by Son of Northern Darkness:

Then why is he sending so many people to hell without giving them an opportunity to worship him? Think about all the people around the world that havent heard of the christian god, they're all going to hell. So are all the babies that die before they get a chance to worship him etc etc. Not very fair eh?

As you've probably realised, I'm not a christian, nor do I agree with the religion.

Discuss

You miss the main point of Christianity, it is based on one main principle. God gave man a law to live by, after man requested the law from God. God told man, since he requested the law, he had to live up to it, or furnish a sacrifice to make up for the short comings. After years of this and mans failing, God sent his son to fullfill the ultimate sacrifice for mans short comings, this was a gift. The basic premise of the christain faith is the acceptance of that gift. Man is not judged because of his sins and God does not send any one to Hell. Man was headed that way all by himself, and God as giving us a gift of a way out. It is the rejection of that gift that causes the problems, if you never reject a gift, it is yours. Babies, people eaten by lions in Africa before the missionaries came are covered, anyother thing you can think of for missed chances is covered.However people like you the scoff and make fun and reject the gift, you are headed your own way.... I hope for your sake you are right.