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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

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  #1   Add Wack0 to your ignore list  
Old 2004-02-20, 00:45
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i'd just like to know, how many people believe in the bible as it is written. not stuff like each day represents 1 million years or something. im talking mainly about the old testiment and how the world was created but this also applies to the new testement.

i don't know if its just me but i get extremely pissed off how people still believe in all that crap, when there is so much evidence that all religions are mostly a load of shit. just the fact that there ARE so many religions proves my point. and cristiananity has no mention of how the mongoloids were created, and buddism has no mention of how the negroids were created. to me its very obvious that if there is no scientific evidence around for how things were formed/created/exist.. whatever, then people create there own religion to explain it.

im not saying there is no god or some kind of superbeing (but if there is its definitly not how any religion has portrayed it), but all this shit about how the world was created is just that, shit. its not just cristianity but all religions make up crap to explain stuff they don't understand. i guess no one wants to except that we all decended from apes.

i went a bit off the topic there, but yea, is there anyone here that believes what the bible says even though science has proven many things wrong?
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Old 2004-02-20, 01:17
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we don't descend from apes! we have a common ancestor. not that many people take the bible word for word, they see it as metaphor. except americans and other extremist countries like Afganistan was.who knows maybe in 2000 years time people might find a copy of the lord of the rings, and base a religion on it, and maybe in 10000 years people might even find the conservative manifesto and believe it was real!!!

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Old 2004-02-20, 02:19
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quote:Originally posted by Wack0:

cristiananity has no mention of how the mongoloids were created
By old people who shouldn't be having babies, as a result of an extra chromosome.

AHAHAHA! Damn, I crack me up.

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Old 2004-02-20, 04:56
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Gotta love a word that has become extremely derogatory towards both mentally insufficients and east asians...
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Old 2004-02-20, 16:04
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Hmm, well, I'd say that i believe the bible. With that said, I'm sure there's an example you could give that i would say, "the new Testament negates that" or "that's not literal". I DONT believe we decesended from apes, and neither did Darwin on his deathbed. I do believe in adaptation, which i guess is evolution.

As for the "created in 6 days thing", i think that's definitly possible without saying that it was actually a million years. Maybe god moves ultra-fast! Like with a speed-hack. Anyway, Genesis isn't the whole story, you can tell because in Job (i believe in chapter 40) God shows Job a dinosaur which he says "[is] among the first creations of god".

So yeah, I believe in the bible, but sometimes i suspect parts of it favor simplicity and understandability to giving the whole story.
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Old 2004-02-20, 17:09
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The bible is bullshit, contradictory, and more rubbish. But it has a point in people should be good. Its called life, life has to live with life. Animals and plants continue to change, striving to still exist.
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Old 2004-02-20, 23:03
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Where is it contradictory?
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Old 2004-02-20, 23:46
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theBishop, a lot of people miss an important point that the New Testament was to 'correct' errors in the Old Testament, and to give the new rules and ways now that there was a Messiah to save whomever or whatnot. Still though, I think the bible is too farfetched and is still just a fiarytale with a good moral point.
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Old 2004-02-21, 02:22
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i believe in the morals that were presented throughout the bible, in all the 66 books it has.

i believe that the bible was created a long time ago to try and help us find ourselves, however the interpretations which have lead to our society's religious structure (i point primarily towards catholocism) have been widely abused for the agenda of man: ie some figureheads in society for a long time have used the biblical message to push their own selfish agenda. Unfortunately this is disillusioning.

the bible was written a long long time ago, for an audience of a past era, to try to get through to them a message of kindness and compassion. we can still take most if not all of the morals presented in the bible and apply them in our lives today - if chosen to do so.

I was a christian, however the religious structure i belonged to had too many loopholes and hypocritical moments.. common sense yet again intervening, and thus, my own spiritual and emotional development through looking into myself for answers, have both thrived... i must say much more than had i remained a part of the christian faith.

the heirachy that most religions have turned to is in my eyes, a hypocritical abuse of the power of the self. promoting fear to get one to view your way is very, very wrong. but it seems to have worked very well thus far hasnt it?

take the age the bible was written over, the humans back then havent seen as advanced technology as we have etc, were quite primitive in comparison to us. take the knowledge of science back then, say astrology, where the earth came from, the big bang etc. Was that kind of philosophy entered into widely back then? or say, even the research into it? http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif Say you were trying to reach an audience of all age groups and creeds in those days. The explaination of the origin of existence is usually the first place to start.

Now say, to fully encompass the entire physicis of " creation " - consider it, say a " big bang " - in an interesting manner that would appeal to such a wide audience so that it could be understood by all would mean everyone spending years and years of mathematical learning and scientific theory etc. Hard.

but what say, if you could make a story in which the creation of existence is relatively simple, yet vague enough to leave room for speculation - put it in the context of " god created heavens and the earth in 6 days - and on the seventh he rested " ?

people in that age would have awed and wondered over just how much power that was, and perhaps ultimately begin to believe in what the bible said.

after all " I am the Alpha, and the Omega " - could 6 days for god be billions of years for us?

what did einstein say? something about the more he looked into the universe the more he began to believe in a higher power. perhaps science cannot explain all, just yet, and maybe we have to look somewhere else for the answers.

this is all speculation for now... the answers will be provided in death http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif
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Old 2004-02-21, 02:50
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Bible's a pretty good story as a kid... in fact, God is still my favourite fictional character.
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