Religion has caused so many problems

[deptstoremook]

How can anybody justify their religion when they consider history, even briefly?

If you think about it, you'll see that religion has opposed nearly every advance in science, humanities, etc.; basically anything that threatened the stability of the religion in power has been attacked in every way imaginable...let's draw a parallel to today's society. What are a few of the issues facing America today? Gay Unions, Abortion, separation of church and state?

Religion has caused or ameliorated virtually every conflict in history and continues to do so today. Therefore it's existence is unjustifiable.

Religion has also been responsible for a massive amount of charity, good conduct, and social conscience. The first recorded antiwar protest in history was carried out by catholic seminary students in Castile, for shit's sakes. Like any institution, religion has a good side and a bad side.

A&A

Realistic Atheist

[SEN D-F]

.....and science brought us the nuke, not religion.

Though I do feel religion has caused more problems then its solved.

[deptstoremook]

quote:Originally posted by Armed&Angry:

Religion has also been responsible for a massive amount of charity, good conduct, and social conscience. The first recorded antiwar protest in history was carried out by catholic seminary students in Castile, for shit's sakes. Like any institution, religion has a good side and a bad side.

A&A

Realistic Atheist

Well yea, but Nazi rule of Germany also brought along great production rates and a reduction of poverty, but you don't hear anybody arguing that Nazi rule was a positive institution, do you? Well, anybody who's not a nutball, anyhow.

When an organization does more harm than good, it's unjustifiable.

Edit: Crusades and Ptolemaic vs. Copernican universe...think about those two events in history.

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[onion jack 67]

this is not it...

anybody can say they are of any faith or religion and simply behave in whatever manner they want.

this doesn't mean that their actions are representing their religion. religion is used and abused as a banner to hide under.

don't judge the religion by the actions of the bad.

read about religions and you'll see it is man and not religion that has caused so many problems.

at the heart of all religion is love. not so of all men.

religion has been persecuted so many times for it's horrendous misrepresentations by man...

namaste

[BlackMage]

This is why i am agnostic, Religon has caused so many problems. We do not need church to get people to give to charity, people can be giving and kind with out the fear of going to hell.

[deptstoremook]

quote:Originally posted by onion jack 67:

this is not it...

anybody can say they are of any faith or religion and simply behave in whatever manner they want.

this doesn't mean that their actions are representing their religion. religion is used and abused as a banner to hide under.

don't judge the religion by the actions of the bad.

read about religions and you'll see it is man and not religion that has caused so many problems.

at the heart of all religion is love. not so of all men.

religion has been persecuted so many times for it's horrendous misrepresentations by man...

namaste

OK religion is good at heart, sure. But since men are inherently falliable and will abuse religion, that makes it bad.

[Dark_Magneto]

Good in theory, bad in practice.

[theBishop]

Religion is neither good nor bad. Religion exists to provide answers to unanswerable quesstions. People who hurt other people are bad.

A lot of wars have happened over money, land, even seasonings. I never hear anyone blame pepper or paprika for what stupid humans do.

[SEN D-F]

quote:Originally posted by onion jack 67:

read about religions and you'll see it is man and not religion that has caused so many problems.

True, religion is just theories, ideas and stories of the past and what not, so logically it can't be responsible for anything.

However the issue is that so many humans take it so seriously, and get so touchy about it that they feel the need to fight and kill over what they believe is right. So I guess you could say it is religion thats the problem, as its the religious concepts that are turning man against eachother.