Did anyone ever consider....

WristSlitter · #1 2004-04-18, 18:49

.... That the 'virgin mary' could have just been raped? I mean seriously... i'm sure she was the one who went around and said she was pregnant but didn't have sex. So maybe she was just raped. She maybe had too much to drink and passed out, or she could have been drugged, or maybe she was anemic and passed out and then was raped? Now think about this; If she wasn't raped, and really did not have sex to produce jesus, where did those extra chromosomes come from? Jesus really and truly couldn't be the son of god if it was god that made this pregnacy possible without sex, because that would mean god would somehow have to put his DNA into mary, which would make god human. And i think it's made very clear that god is not human. So if God did make her pregnant, then maybe God took some of mary's own DNA and put it into and egg cell to get the 48 or however many chromosomes is needed. If this is the case and there was no outside DNA put into mary, then that would make Jesus mary's clone. this is just a little weird theory of mine. Anyone have any ideas?

The Crusader · #2 2004-04-18, 18:57

When discussing miracles you really shouldn't focus so much on the laws of physics and biology.

Hexadecimal · #3 2004-04-18, 20:16

Why not? Because you might discredit the bullshit?

The Crusader · #4 2004-04-18, 20:58

Applying substantiate, scientific laws and principles to phenomena is rather paradoxical.

Hexadecimal · #5 2004-04-18, 21:26

Actually, it isn't. It makes absolute sense to apply science to a situation.

I was born asexually from a man, and am the son of God. In 20 years I'm going to feed a bunch of starving Ethiopians with a single can of tuna. 2000 years later people will question those accounts.

Now, I can claim that all I want, I could even write stories about it happening, or ask friends to do so. Still though, if one applies logic to it, one finds that it is utter bullshit, just as many will do with a lot of the stories in the Bible.

The Crusader · #6 2004-04-18, 21:35

You've completely missed the point I was making. No one's arguing with the absurdity of the phenomena, only the inevitable contradiction of applying logical reasoning to it. It wouldn't be a miracle if it didn't break the laws of science.

RvK · #7 2004-04-18, 21:41

"Virgin" mary was a prostitute. It sounds far fetched but do some research into it.

Hexadecimal · #8 2004-04-18, 22:10

I understand that; I also understand the capacity of humans to exaggerate first-hand accounts to sensationalize them. Which is why we must apply logic to first-hand accounts, it's the only way to determine the bullshit from the truth, though thanks to our good friend cognitive dissonance, even one who knows what they have faith in is utter bullshit can wholeheartedly maintain said faith.

Metalligod · #9 2004-04-18, 23:38

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quote:Originally posted by WristSlitter:

.... That the 'virgin mary' could have just been raped?...

I've asked and exclaimed this to ppl many times.

I think she was raped, but by God though. This ghost, comes and inseminates her against her will. That's an extreme violation, aka rape.

Direckshun · #10 2004-04-19, 08:10

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quote:Originally posted by RvK:

"Virgin" mary was a prostitute. It sounds far fetched but do some research into it.

Prove it.

And the Crusader is right.

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