Noah's ark

Lil' bag o' Waggy Bash · #1 2004-04-19, 21:48

Ai, I'm sure any Christians here have prolly had a Noah's ark debate already, but here's another one:

How the fuck do a handful of people gather together two of every single species of animal on the planet and get them to live together on a boat while the world floods?

As far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong, which I prolly am cos my knowledge of the bible is shit) it says in the bible that God didn't use any miracles for this. All explanations are welcome.

Lucky · #2 2004-04-19, 21:57

Yah would be nice to know how they manged that cause No one had discoverd Norht america so how did all those animals get there? And plus that boat would have to be huge way too big for those guys to build.

Lil' bag o' Waggy Bash · #3 2004-04-20, 00:33

Yeah, a Christian chum of mine says they've actually calculated the exact proportions of the ark and proven that it is actually possible. But I still fail to believe it. Plus there's shit loads of other things that seem beyond explanation. Like how did they find every single species on the planet when today we are still discovering new species. Our technology these days shits all over technology back then so how did they do it?

Also, how did they create the environments necessary for each and every single type of land animal to survive on a boat? Think about the different climates and environments necessary for different animals survival. What about animals fighting with each other and wanting to eat each other? Think about the amount of food required to feed every type of bird, every type of cat, every type of dog etc ..

How did they keep the ark clean of all the animal shit?

I could prolly think of more stuff, but that'll prolly do.

If the bible is the word of God then what's a bullshit fairy tale like this doing in there?

WristSlitter · #4 2004-04-20, 00:51

Ah yes, Noah's Ark.

Think about this; first off, the WORLD flooded, right? The known world back then was not the whole world, it was Mesopotamia, an area between the Tigrus and Euphraties (sp) river in modern day Iraq That was where civilazation was at the time, that esentially was the world. Now that being said it makes it easier to understand my second point; how they could have gotten two of every animal? The animals they got onto the boat were the only known animals. Maybe some sheep and pigs, few others that were around and important back then. It wouldn't have been two either, just whatever they could find. Next, the ship. They've sspeculated that the most logical way for Noah to have a ship was if he was a trader, not a farmer like what is said in the bible or where ever. The ship (it was more like a big boat) wouldn't be shaped like a convential boat. It would have been like other boats at the time. It would have had maybe four large baskets, maybe 7 feet deep by 7 feet across, nearly completely submerged in water holding it up. On top of that would have been a platform, and above that another platform, the whole thing being maybe 30 feet across. If you've ever seen a picture of Noah in a kids story book or something we looks like an old man with a long white beard wearing a long white robe. That's also wrong. We're talking about the middle east, it was hot as fuck. He would not have worn a massive robe. He would have looked like all the other men of the time. No shirt, a long kilt, shaved head and a lot of eye makeup was the style at the time.

This whole story about the flood is most likely true. Similiar stories have been recorded in Indian and Babylonian scripts.

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Hexadecimal · #5 2004-04-20, 01:06

It is my opinion that the authors of the bible had no problem with unrestricted use of hyperbole.

Lil' bag o' Waggy Bash · #6 2004-04-20, 01:14

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quote:Originally posted by WristSlitter:

The animals they got onto the boat were the only known animals. Maybe some sheep and pigs, few others that were around and important back then.

So what happened to all the other animals not on the ark?

And what's hyperbole?

WristSlitter · #7 2004-04-20, 01:25

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quote:Originally posted by Lil' bag o' Waggy Bash:

So what happened to all the other animals not on the ark?

And what's hyperbole?

I don't know? they lived, provided they wern't close enough to one of the rivers that they drowned.

Dark_Magneto · #8 2004-04-20, 02:06

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quote:Originally posted by Lil' bag o' Waggy Bash:

So what happened to all the other animals not on the ark?

They all died, of course.

Of course, Noah's Ark is just a rehash of the Epic of Gilgamesh which is a conjugation of Sumerian flood myths, so it has nothing to do with reality if that's what you're asking.

Lil' bag o' Waggy Bash · #9 2004-04-20, 02:18

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quote:Originally posted by Dark_Magneto:

They all died, of course.

Of course, Noah's Ark is just a rehash of the Epic of Gilgamesh which is a conjugation of Sumerian flood myths, so it has nothing to do with reality if that's what you're asking.

Ah ok. You seem pretty dang clever, coming up with words like "gilgamesh" and "conjugation" and being an administrator and all, so I'll take your word for it

Never heard that one before though. Mad! Cheers

theBishop · #10 2004-04-20, 17:18

Hex, i think you have a point there with the hyperbole. 78% of all problems with the bible i've heard come from the (edit)Genesis. This book has existed as an oral tradition for years and years before it was ever written down. So saying that it is a fairy tale, I don't think is really unfair to say. That being said, there is definite evidence that a catastrophic flood actually happened around turkey near the Black Sea.

Remember, the hebrews were going to be God's chosen people so the rest of the world and animals kind of doesn't matter because it was a specific group of people God was trying to wipe clean.

Dont Know What Hyperbole means? Go Here: www.dictionary.com

And always remember: Stay In School.

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