Why?!?!

[skoolboy_arts]

why doesnt god show himself?!

[theBishop]

I've seen Thom Yorke 4 times.

[Eil]

why would he feel the need to? if he is existence itself, then is he really hiding?

[---Beany---]

He does, but you're always looking the other way.

[skoolboy_arts]

im just pretty dumb about this whole religion thinng...i admit it...im not an aetheist or sumthin...i know thers a god.im just not the religious type

[shuu]

There is no possible way for god to show himself. He obviously does not have a body, or at least he does not have a physical one. You see, our eyes are a part of our bodies, and physical materials are what allow us to see, which is why something that does not have a physical body needs to use energy to create an appiration. Usually, to people on earth, someone from the "other side" (I tried to avoid that corny over used term) needs to use energy to create an appiration, most likely of what they looked like in life.

I can't imagine how it would be like on the "other side" (used that damn term again), because since people don't have bodies how do they see? My thought is that the "other side"

is a completely different place where the people there don't actually "see". As for god, how would he create an appiration to represent himself with? He cannot. However, he has appirated before: it just wasn't a visual appiration. The holy spirit is God's appiration, and his way of showing himself.

[evolove]

God doesn't show himself because it is not possible for us to see him.

At the most fundamental level everything is energy, as far as we know. They're have been people that have testified to this long before science came to this conclusion, "The meditator, the object of meditation, and the meditation itself are all one." Energy using energy to perceive energy. You may have seen the snake that eats it's own tail for eternity, I have forgotten the name, sorry about that. The snake in Yogic Philosophy aswell as 'Abrahamic' is this energy, Shakti in sanskrit. Which is doubled by it's negative, nothing(for discriptive purposes, realy it's beyond nothing/something.) God embraces all of this, yin/yang.

This is why you cannot see God, at least not until you can see this.

[Dark_Magneto]

quote:Originally posted by skoolboy_arts:

why doesnt god show himself?!

If there was no such thing as gods then they couldn't reveal themselves because they didn't exist.

Not-so-coincidentally, that explanation perfectly explains why you don't see gods running down the street or appearing in the sky.

So what makes more sense: Gods exist and they are providing you with the illsion that you live in a world that is completely devoid of any gods and they are just pulling a fast one over on you, or that it is actually not an illusion at all and there are no such things as gods?

Either gods hide themselves really damn good or don't exist at all, but either way it would appear that the leading indication is that we shouldn't believe in them. Either they don't exist or they don't want us to know they exist, but either way you shouldn't believe in them unless you get some conrete proof as to their existence.

That's the default mentality. Everyone pretty much assumes that any given thing does not exist until they have been presented with a reason to believe that it does (Like invisible dragons in my garage for instance). Some people require signifigantly less evidence to believe in something that others because they take leaps of faith and such, so they don't require that convincing evidence whereas the rational skeptic does.

Whatever happens to be the case, you simply can't go wrong with a healthy dose of skepticism.

[Discipulus]

Deut. 6:16

quote:Do not put the Lord your God to the test.

answers it all.

[Dark_Magneto]

Yep. God was never a big fan of the scientific method.