Straight christian opinions on pot

[Ophidian Sumerian Dildo]

Ok.

Jesus himself consumed alcohol, and alcohol is a deadly poison. The substance kills more then 300,000 people...a year.

Now lets look at cannabis, it is a natural herb, of the earth and has been used for 10,000 years. In those 10,000 years there is not a single reported case of a death/overdose.

Now we also can look at the almost certain fact that jesus himself used marijunaha. It was a primary ingredient in the holy annointing oil, and evidence also suggests that it was the herb responsible for the success of many of christ's alleged healings.

When christ was done being annointed, he clamed to feel an intense love and see God, well guess what? He was just bathed in 10 gallons of cannabis oil. The plant's chemicals were extracted into olive oil and became active even to skin contact. Jesus would have indeed experienced hallucinations, which would explain several of his meetings with God. Many alcoholic beverages back then were fortified with herbs and plants now known to be hallucinogenic.

So there is evidence to suggest that all these biblical visions and voices were actually phsycotic episodes and auditory hallucinations instigated by the consumption of phsycotropic substances.

But back to the point, what do you christians feel about this plant, Cannabis?

What do you feel about all the evidence that points towards Jesus's consumption of the substance?

[HellzShellz]

I didn't even have to read all of that.

You're going to do what you BELIEVE.

You can show religious people out of the Word of God, what He says, and they'll say, "Well, I just don't BELIEVE that." Or, "I don't THINK He meant it THAT way." He said it like he meant it. Ya know, and if we're going to try to make sense and QUESTION what God really MEANT instead of BELIEVING, then we'll have to question John 3:16 too. Chew on this, Jesus said, "O ye of little faith," to His diciples, more than any. Yeah. That's a tough one to swallow. I heard a story of some 'PROFESSOR', who's said, he's DISCOVERED, by research that Jesus was REALLY standing on a piece of ice. (I guess Peter went to stand on the ice too, WHILE IT WAS STORMING, and it broke through. It was probably all that heat from the storm melting the ice). No, Don't BELIEVE that! Believe God! Same professor also said, he's discovered that the Moses lead Israel out of the Red Sea in water that came up to your ankles. As my Pastor said, "If that' the case, then that's an even BIGGER miracle, because that means the Egyptians drowned in ankle deep water."

On to the point..Yes, smoking marijuana is a sin. Why? 1. You body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, if you're born again. It doesn't BELONG to you. 2. The bible says to be of a SOBER mind. 3. Marijuana is classified as a WEED, and the WEEDS came with the CURSE.



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[Ophidian Sumerian Dildo]

You sicken me.

[Ophidian Sumerian Dildo]

So let me get this straight.

Let me see if I comprehend one of the basic principles of the christian religion, in relation to the hole temple of the Holy Ghost thing....



I dont belong to myself.?

[pengd0t]

Everything in moderation, my friend.

Jesus might have drank alcohol, that's probably so. He might have even smoked some marijuana or hashish. Culturally, that's just as likely.

The only real problem there is with marijuana is the pothead thing. If you're just going to smoke yourself retarded, then you might as well not do it, and you're just stupid for doing so. Likewise, if you are looking to get " a buzz, man!..." then you are still just wasting your time. And honestly, I can't think of a more valuable thing that you could have.

If Jesus drank alcohol, even became intoxicated, that wouldn't make him anything different. I know it mentions such stories in the bible, but I disregard the bible when it comes to religious (or occasionally, spiritual) questions. There's already enough bible debate without stirring up any of that here.

Do what you want. There is no such thing as a sin. God is. You are. Don't waste your life, it isn't going to last forever. Just do whatever you want, always, and do what you can to make the world a better place for yourself and others. The bible was written by other people like yourself who were just trying to figure things out for themselves, so they've no reason to have any understanding of god that is unattainable to you. You can disregard any religious dogma, and just think, and you'll know what to do.

[pengd0t]

I'm afraid I didn't read all of your post the first time 'round.

About these psychoactively catalyzed hallucinatory episodes you mention...

Have you yourself experienced things like this?

If one isn't distracted, by the "omg, i feel teh funny!!@11!" then you'll realize that you undergo a removal of your ego, which removes your subjective, utilitarian, view of objects / scenarios, and consequently, may provide you with incredible new truths and insights into those sorts of things. When dealing with matters of the metaphysical, I know of few better ways of grasping these complex ideas, at least no methods as almost instantaneous.

[Viraljimmy]

quote:Originally posted by HellzShellz:

Marijuana is classified as a WEED, and the WEEDS came with the CURSE.

Homeschooled much?

[Siatek]

I know a preist who blazes, but most Christians don't.

There's no specific references in the bible towards it, however God gave us the plants to use.

However, we are also told to folow the laws of the country we live in.

However, we're also told to get closer to God.

But, the Bible says that your body is your temple. By slowing your brain down, or damaging it, you're damaging your temple, and thus- God.

I've found religious people to be overall, straight edge. I'd guess that about half as many Christians smoke as compared with teh general population, though I guess it also depends on how seriously they take their religion, their age & their gender.

[Mellow_Fellow]

Christians don't like much, I wouldn't stress. Acknowledging their petty fear of all things natural and good only encourages their hypocrisy.

I can't see how cannabis is a sin in any way from a Christian point of view either, considering it says in the bible not to abuse your body and health and cannabis isn't particularly harmful to health at all, i think it's a fair bet to say getting high is not a major sin.

Of course, millions of christians would say it is, plainly because Christianity is a system of control, and systems of control don't like free-thinking drug users.

[-Mephisto-]

if (the christian) god was real i'd make sure i went to hell.

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