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2006-04-27, 02:07
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So, goahead and read this disclaimer and take it in,
I am an American, I travel a lot, I know a lot, I consider myself more open then most people I meet, and I know I still don't know very much about a lot of stuff, but if you can help me out in understanding this,
When Islamic (and Christian and many other mainstream religions but mainly Islamic I find) people are willing to fight to the death about their religion, why are they doing this? If someone has an opposing view to me, and I try to convince them otherwise, I usually give myself good reason, and I am not saying Islam is not a good reason for whatever you want to do with it, I am just saying, Why would you go as far as killing someone and fighting for your religion, when you could just sit back and confide in the fact that everyone else who is an "Infidel" is going to go to hell...
Truly, it's not their problem.
Sure, the religion might not be as big because it's not pushed on as many people, but if you're looking at it in the way that you're trying to help people out by enlightening them, then asses their "ignorance." If someone is unwilling, don't kill them... wtf.
Now I know this is only going to be read by those who are just as lost as I am, and not by those who don't have computers, and live under military rule and have shitty lives...
But maybe that's why.
Got any thoughts?
-Dane
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2006-04-27, 02:16
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Yes, Islam IS in fact gay.
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2006-04-27, 03:03
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It's not Islam, it's the stupidity of the Muslims. They are uneducated and don't know anything about their faith in detail. Seriously, take a look at Muslim countries. Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, they're fucking shitholes. And most of the refugees that come there to Australia are pieces of shit that need to be shipped back. If they were smart, and had a good education and really learned about Islam, this shit wouldn't be happening.
But that's how the West wants it to be. OMGZ CONSPIRACY!?!?
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2006-04-27, 04:53
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These "stupid" muslims know a lot more about Islam than you do. The holy texts are quite clear in regard to infidels and the afterlife.
Bottom line: These muslims believe they have the instant ticket to paradise. They cant wait to die in defense of their faith because they go straight to heaven and bang 72 hot young virgins.
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2006-04-27, 04:55
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quote:Originally posted by Real.PUA:
These "stupid" muslims know a lot more about Islam than you do. The holy texts are quite clear in regard to infidels and the afterlife.
Bottom line: These muslims believe they have the instant ticket to paradise. They cant wait to die in defense of their faith because they go straight to heaven and bang 72 hot young virgins.
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Funny, because the Koran denounces suicide. 
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2006-04-27, 05:36
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quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:
Funny, because the Koran denounces suicide.
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But it's not suicide. It's martyrdom, aka dying in battle against the infidel.
Muslims are commanded in the Koran to spread the "good news", same way Christians are commanded to "go into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creature". Muslims are just allowed to use excessive force to accomplish the conversion.
I agree with Loc Dogg, however, your average Middle Eastern or just Asian Muslim is a stupid twit. They produce highly intelligent ones, but most are retarded fucks who like to get loud and break stuff.
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2006-04-27, 05:46
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quote:Originally posted by Real.PUA:
These "stupid" muslims know a lot more about Islam than you do. The holy texts are quite clear in regard to infidels and the afterlife.
Bottom line: These muslims believe they have the instant ticket to paradise. They cant wait to die in defense of their faith because they go straight to heaven and bang 72 hot young virgins.
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If they knew more about Islam than me, they wouldn't behave like fucking idiots and go blow themselves up. Like Argon said, suicide is sin in Islam, and blowing yourself up for Islam is retarded. That earns them a place in Hellfire. Why? "Oh shit I'll go and strap C4 to myself and kill some innocent civilians." Do you fucking realise how stupid that sounds? If they were on the frontline, in a heated gun battle with enemy soldiers that are attacking them, that's a completely different story.
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?...0in%20Paradise
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2006-04-27, 06:50
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quote:Originally posted by crazed_hamster:
But it's not suicide. It's martyrdom, aka dying in battle against the infidel.
Muslims are commanded in the Koran to spread the "good news", same way Christians are commanded to "go into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creature". Muslims are just allowed to use excessive force to accomplish the conversion.
I agree with Loc Dogg, however, your average Middle Eastern or just Asian Muslim is a stupid twit. They produce highly intelligent ones, but most are retarded fucks who like to get loud and break stuff.
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"Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: For thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance. (The Noble Quran, 16:125)"
"Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. (The Noble Quran, 109:1-6)"
" Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"
" Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (The Noble Quran, 15:2-3)"
" If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then COMPEL mankind, against their will, to believe! (The Noble Quran, 10:99)"
"Say: 'Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message). (The Noble Quran, 24:54)"
Please show me where the fuck it says that you are allowed to use excessive force to convert 'infidels' in the Quran?
OP: You generalize too much.
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2006-04-27, 07:39
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quote:Originally posted by Loc Dogg:
If they knew more about Islam than me, they wouldn't behave like fucking idiots and go blow themselves up. Like Argon said, suicide is sin in Islam, and blowing yourself up for Islam is retarded. That earns them a place in Hellfire. Why? "Oh shit I'll go and strap C4 to myself and kill some innocent civilians." Do you fucking realise how stupid that sounds? If they were on the frontline, in a heated gun battle with enemy soldiers that are attacking them, that's a completely different story.
http: //www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=72%20Virgins%20in%20Paradise
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Yes I am sure you have studied the Koran more than them.
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2006-04-27, 08:15
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quote:Originally posted by Real.PUA:
Yes I am sure you have studied the Koran more than them.
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Hes studied the Quran alot more than you.
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