Reincarnation > Heaven

[Beelzebub]

does anybody here agree with me that reincarnation is a far more favourable alternative to the idea of heaven? Its far more plausible too i find. Souls being reused. Doesnt that explain why some people are jsut plain EVIL or GOOD too? i dont know just speculating, does anybody agree?

[Adrenochrome]

I must admit, I do quite like the idea of reincarnation, and I'm not overly keen on the idea of heaven.

[merkury4]

quote:Originally posted by Adrenochrome:

I must admit, I do quite like the idea of reincarnation, and I'm not overly keen on the idea of heaven.

Me too.

[jsaxton14]

1: There is no evidence of this "soul" you speak of.

2: The number of souls on this planet isn't anywhere close to constant, so you'd have to establish some sort of purgatory for body-less souls.

3: Invisible man in the sky/heaven vs invisible soul/reincarnation. We have no evidence for either. Both are equally ridiculous.

4: You're making the assumption that some people are inherently "good" or "evil," which I think is flawed. Furthermore, behavior is often determined by *gasp* life-experiences which shouldn't affect the soul (by your reasoning).

I am not convinced. Reincarnation, like any other supernatural claim, is fucking stupid.

[Adrenochrome]

I never said I believe in it - I’m an atheist - I just prefer the idea of it to the idea heaven.

[Dre Crabbe]

I'd prefer that as well. Heaven always seemed to me like a golden prison.

[Adrenochrome]

quote:Originally posted by Dre Crabbe:

I'd prefer that as well. Heaven always seemed to me like a golden prison.

Heaven always seemed very facist to me. And I also couldn't understand how somebody would be happy in heaven knowing that friends and family are burning in hell for eternity, even if they're good people just for being atheists, unless they're forced to be happy.

[zebra head]

quote:Originally posted by jsaxton14:

1: There is no evidence of this "soul" you speak of.

2: The number of souls on this planet isn't anywhere close to constant, so you'd have to establish some sort of purgatory for body-less souls.

3: Invisible man in the sky/heaven vs invisible soul/reincarnation. We have no evidence for either. Both are equally ridiculous.

4: You're making the assumption that some people are inherently "good" or "evil," which I think is flawed. Furthermore, behavior is often determined by *gasp* life-experiences which shouldn't affect the soul (by your reasoning).

I am not convinced. Reincarnation, like any other supernatural claim, is fucking stupid.

Em, then maybe you should leave this forum?

I do agree, reincarnation sounds much better than the idea of heaven, heaven (and hell for that matter) both sound just so damned monotoneuos (butchered?)- I'd take reincarnation over heaven on one preference- that I can choose how (assuming I deserve, if that's how a given religion has it, or the way it works) I am reincarnated.

[Florida Snow]

What about the scenario wherein earth is destroyed, along with all humans? then would reincarnation cease to be?

[Rust]

quote:Originally posted by zebra head:

Em, then maybe you should leave this forum?.

Why should he? I agree with everything he said; that does not mean I shouldn't be reading and/or posting in this forum. I want to expose those theistic claims as fucking stupid. I don't like when reason takes a backseat to faith, and online discussions are a great way to show that and maybe even attempt to curtail it.

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Anyway, as for the original topic, if I were to believe in either of those concepts, I would choose heaven. Reincarnation seems trivial to me if I do not ultimately get to remember what I have experienced in past lives.