Namaste:)

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Abrahim has asked the following in the topic "get your torches ready--another Christian" and, in the interests of forum decorum , I've transferred the discussion to a new thread.

quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:

I do believe that I read the posts of my questioners and then I respond with writing long winded posts in response to various things they brought up then they tell me that I'm just copy pasting non sense and ask me to answer their questions when I feel I have!

You copy and pasting may make sense to you and some others, however lists of verses picked out of particular contexts and used to support a point of view will be very familiar with any person who has had contact with churchianity and as mentioned: once bitten twice shy! You cannot prove your point by appealing to the Koran as an authoratitive source unless you also provide proof for the authority of the Koran. That proof cannot come from within the Koran, it must come from independent sources.

quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:

Why do you put "Namaste" at the end of your posts if you don't believe in what I believe in? Namaste is a reference to the same concept as the one I speak of, the one some call non sense!

Namaste means any of the following:

"In a religious context this word can be taken to mean any of these:

The Spirit in me meets the same Spirit in you.

I greet that place where you and I are one.

I salute the divine in you.

I salute the Light of God in you.

I bow to the divine in you.

I recognize that within each of us is a place where Divinity dwells, and when we are in that place, we are One.

In other words, it recognizes the equality of all, and pays honor to the sacredness and interconnection of all, as well as to the source of that interconnection. Namaskar is the term for such greetings, and is also used as a greeting itself."

Found in Hinduism which believes:

"brahma (nominative singular), brahman (stem) (neuter[1] gender) means the concept of the Supreme transcendent and immanent Reality or the One Godhead or Cosmic Spirit in Hinduism; this is discussed below. Also note that the word Brahman in this sense is exceptionally treated as masculine (see the Merrill-Webster Sanskrit Dictionary). It is called "the Brahman" in English."

also

"Ishvara, or the Supreme God (lit., Supreme Lord), which may be completely identified with the Supreme Truth Brahman, as by the Dvaita philosophy, or partially as a worldly manifestation of the Brahman having (positive) attributes."

Do you believe in any of the above? Why do you say Namaste, what do you mean by it?

"I greet that place where you and I are one."

We are all human, subject to suffering, desires, aversions, and ignorance. We all wish for an escape from suffering and to be happy.

"it recognizes the equality of all, and pays honor to the sacredness and interconnection of all, as well as to the source of that interconnection."

As I recognise the equal right of all to have their beliefs, and recognise that what is right for me is not necesarily right for others. We are all unique, individual, human beings, and as far as is known, humans are the highest form of sentient life. It is not my place to instruct others, for I have found that the highest levels of spirituality are to be found within oneself.

You on the other hand, appear to be full of evangelistic fervour and it is this along with your proselytizing that is the point of difference. I have read the Koran(and any other holy book I could) and have found it wanting. I believe everyone deserves to have the same level of proof as Thomas Paine pointed out iin "Age of Reason". That is if Thomas the disciple was not able to believe without physical proof, that right is mine and all others as well. Why should one believe in Allah and the Koran? where is the proof? What benefit would it be(aside from avoiding hell)? IMHO you would be better off dropping your appeal to the supernatural and working on a viable version of your 'ultimate reality' theory.

Namaste