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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |

2006-08-20, 16:21
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If someone kills/rapes/molests kids and repents in jail will he still get into heaven or whatever? I sure hope not 
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2006-08-20, 16:38
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This is why the very concept of God is stupid.
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2006-08-20, 16:40
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To my knowledge of christian mythology the only unforgivable sins *might* be Denying the holy spirit and some suicide related things. Its all up to interpretation and I could be wrong.
Not to say a murderer would have to go through the necessary repentance processes and truly be repentful and what not, but I could be wrong.
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2006-08-22, 09:25
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Yes they will experience heaven. But the fact that they kill, rape and molests kids demonstrates they haven't the spiritual understanding which provides "Heavenly experience".
For example. The bully beats up kids because he may have issues with his own worthiness as a male. It's his own inner issues that prevent him from experiencing higher levels of happiness, but eventually he'll overcome the issues, stop beating people up and experience a more heavenly life.
We all have issues that make us less happy and cause us to act in undesirable ways, so we should be aware that some people have huge issues and need help resolving them.
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2006-08-22, 09:44
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Satanz Handicaped Helper:
If someone kills/rapes/molests kids and repents in jail will he still get into heaven or whatever? I sure hope not
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If you do you wrong, for whatever reason, and are in jail now, and feel your impending death, and begin to believe hell waits for you, and you repent and spend your last years in prison as a good person, wouldn't you hope that God forgives you if you ask and do right?
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2006-08-22, 10:44
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The only people there is no forgiveness for are those who blaspheme against the holy spirit. They are defiantly going to hell; therefore, I am defiantly going to hell if it is a real place.
It's funny that someone who molested two children, ruining their lives, might get into heaven, but I defiantly won't for renouncing the holy spirit and saying 'fuck the holy spirit'.
[This message has been edited by Raw_Power (edited 08-22-2006).]
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2006-08-22, 20:47
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Wasilla, Alaska
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God does not judge or punish. We do a more than ample job of doing that ourselves.
God has no need to forgive, as God cannot be offended.
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2006-08-22, 21:00
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quote:Originally posted by ArmsMerchant:
God does not judge or punish. We do a more than ample job of doing that ourselves.
God has no need to forgive, as God cannot be offended.
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Oh, you don't call making ten commandments and saying if we do not adhere to them we'll be sent to hell a punishment?
edit - god is like a man who holds a knife to your neck and if you don't do as he says, he slits you and says "you did it to yourself"; an abusive husband who blames his wife for the cause of his drunken outbursts.
[This message has been edited by Raw_Power (edited 08-22-2006).]
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2006-08-22, 21:29
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If the person truly is sorry for what he did and asks for forgivness, God will give it. The only unforgivable sin is denying God until you die, then you won't be able to be forgiven.
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2006-08-22, 21:31
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quote:Originally posted by Dragonsthrone:
If the person truly is sorry for what he did and asks for forgivness, God will give it. The only unforgivable sin is denying God until you die, then you won't be able to be forgiven.
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That's not the only one, the other is blaspheme against the holy spirit, which I have done many a time.
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